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bob
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      05-01-2004, 06:08 PM
I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?

tia


 
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      05-01-2004, 06:46 PM
bob <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's ?14.99 include binaries?


On the last point, I think so, but it has a one gig cap, so you won't
be doing much.
At the moment the beta newsserver is being started up.
It will move over to be the main one in a bit.

Binaries are a bit cack on plusnet at the moment, but once the new
newsserver is in place, it should be better.
The new server is better than the old one at the moment, but that's
not saying much.
More feeds, and configuring the new server needs to occur, as well
as beta testing for some users.
Any plusnet users, the address is beta.usenet.plus.net.
There are some sorts of account it will not work with AIUI.

 
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      05-01-2004, 06:49 PM
bob wrote:

> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?
>
> tia


Plusnets News servers are a bit cack also (I don't personally use the
binary groups, so don't have 1st hand experience of the binary groups),
but I do know that Plusnet spent a big lump of money earlier this year
to upgrade their usenet servers. Things may be about to improve..

 
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Albrow, Sam J
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      05-01-2004, 07:09 PM
"bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c70p2q$3tr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?


Plusnets news server is fine for text based newsgroups in my opinion however
you aren't going to get decent binaries from an isp without paying for it.

Plusnet will allow you to access a subscription news account if you wish.

http://www.plus.net/info2/residentia..._homelite.html tells you
about the account,

I *think* the only limit is the download limit - I would check this though,
as well as saying that downloading will easily get you over this limit so
why not simply go for a unlimited bandwith account and you won't have these
problems (although still won't get good binarys)

Sam
>
> tia
>
>

"bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c70p2q$3tr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?


Plusnets news server is fine for text based newsgroups in my opinion however
you aren't going to get decent binaries from an isp without paying for it.

Plusnet will allow you to access a subscription news account if you wish.

http://www.plus.net/info2/residentia..._homelite.html tells you
about the account,

I *think* the only limit is the download limit - I would check this though,
as well as saying that downloading will easily get you over this limit so
why not simply go for a unlimited bandwith account and you won't have these
problems (although still won't get good binarys)

Sam
>
> tia
>
>



 
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Andy Hewitt
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      05-01-2004, 07:25 PM
Albrow, Sam J <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:c70p2q$3tr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> > pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> > plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?

>
> Plusnets news server is fine for text based newsgroups in my opinion however
> you aren't going to get decent binaries from an isp without paying for it.
>
> Plusnet will allow you to access a subscription news account if you wish.
>
> http://www.plus.net/info2/residentia..._homelite.html tells you
> about the account,
>
> I *think* the only limit is the download limit - I would check this though,
> as well as saying that downloading will easily get you over this limit so
> why not simply go for a unlimited bandwith account and you won't have these
> problems (although still won't get good binarys)


PlusNet have no binaries on the budget packages (14.99 and 18.99), but
they are available on the 21.99 package.

However, the PlusNet servers do have some problems, and do lose a lot of
posts.

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      05-01-2004, 09:15 PM
"Andy Hewitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Albrow, Sam J <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:c70p2q$3tr$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've
>>> heard that pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for
>>> binaries. How does plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99
>>> include binaries?

>>
>> Plusnets news server is fine for text based newsgroups in my opinion
>> however you aren't going to get decent binaries from an isp without
>> paying for it.
>>
>> Plusnet will allow you to access a subscription news account if you
>> wish.
>>
>> http://www.plus.net/info2/residentia..._homelite.html
>> tells you about the account,
>>
>> I *think* the only limit is the download limit - I would check this
>> though, as well as saying that downloading will easily get you over
>> this limit so why not simply go for a unlimited bandwith account and
>> you won't have these problems (although still won't get good binarys)

>
> PlusNet have no binaries on the budget packages (14.99 and 18.99), but
> they are available on the 21.99 package.
>
> However, the PlusNet servers do have some problems, and do lose a lot
> of posts.


The only restriction on the £14.99 account is the download limit. According
to CS this is sufficient to prevent the sort of excessive use that can occur
with binary newsgroups and P2P, therefore there is no need to specifically
prevent these uses. You can exceed the download limit but will be charged
extra if you do. Full details are on the Plusnet site.

Should you decide on Plusnet Bob I should be grateful if you would use
"safeprod" as your referrer. Depending on the account you choose it will
get me a small discount.

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      05-02-2004, 08:20 AM
On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:08:19 +0100, "bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl.


You might consider adding in FreeUK, which has access to the news
service from Claranet (but with a 10 GB/month cap on news), and is
several pounds below the cost of Claranet, but into a similar price
bracket as PlusNet and Pipex AFAIK. It has dynamic IP and a 12 month
contract if they're problems, whereas PlusNet gives you fixed IP, and
option to have a monthly contract. One of my clients uses FreeUK with
no complaints about service (it wasn't the service I'd recommend, but
the MD's "consultant" friend moved them from FreeUK dial-up to ADSL,
without apparently considering one of their possible needs would be
a fixed IP if their Dover office was to be connected easily!)
 
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      05-02-2004, 10:05 AM
On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:08:19 +0100, bob <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl. I've heard that
> pipex's newservers are a bit cack, particularly for binaries. How does
> plusnet compare? Also does plusnet's £14.99 include binaries?
>
> tia
>
>


Hi,

The new Broadband Home Lite account doesn't block access to binary
newsgroups, we've got an upgrade going on at the moment to our Usenet
platform including new servers and new peers which should result in a
significant improvement with the retention and completeness of binaries.

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      05-02-2004, 10:17 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, poster <us-
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>On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:08:19 +0100, "bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl.

>
>You might consider adding in FreeUK, which has access to the news
>service from Claranet (but with a 10 GB/month cap on news), and is
>several pounds below the cost of Claranet, but into a similar price
>bracket as PlusNet and Pipex AFAIK. It has dynamic IP and a 12 month
>contract if they're problems, whereas PlusNet gives you fixed IP, and
>option to have a monthly contract.


Since broadband is an always-on service, don't you in effect end up with
a fixed IP?

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      05-02-2004, 04:19 PM
poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:08:19 +0100, "bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to decide between plusnet and pipex for adsl.

>
> You might consider adding in FreeUK, which has access to the news
> service from Claranet (but with a 10 GB/month cap on news), and is
> several pounds below the cost of Claranet, but into a similar price
> bracket as PlusNet and Pipex AFAIK. It has dynamic IP and a 12 month
> contract if they're problems, whereas PlusNet gives you fixed IP, and


You get a dynamic IP by default on plusnet, and can opt for a static IP by
setting it up on the web-admin pages free.
You can also request several extra static-IPs free, if you give a reason.

It's probably a good idea to wait a couple of weeks, to see how the
new plusnet newsserver pans out, as it'll be uncapped, and may be
quite good.

> option to have a monthly contract. One of my clients uses FreeUK with
> no complaints about service (it wasn't the service I'd recommend, but
> the MD's "consultant" friend moved them from FreeUK dial-up to ADSL,
> without apparently considering one of their possible needs would be
> a fixed IP if their Dover office was to be connected easily!)

 
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