Plusnet: junk snail-mailshot: opting out: compliment

Yes, I know, it's unusual to read positive comments about Plusnet on
this group, but maybe a bit of balance doesn't go amiss?

I got a piece of junk snail mail this morning from Plusnet. I haven't
used Plusnet in ages, so I don't know whether they got my details from
their old records, or off someone else's list, but no matter in this
case). I am also on the Mail Preference Service (MPS
http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/ ), so it probably shouldn't have happened.

However, at the foot of the letter there was a helpful bit: "If you’d
prefer not to receive any more mailings from us, simply visit
http://www.plus.net/dm/optout/ and we’ll remove you from our list.
We’re sorry to have bothered you."

Not many companies include this sort of information on their mailings
(or it's very hard to find), so that's a good start. The webpage itself
is clear and helpful, and seems to work, and gives a response when the
details are submitted. Pretty good, really.

Allan

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:48:58 +0100, Flop <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On 17/09/2010 10:30, Allan wrote:
>>
>> I got a piece of junk snail mail this morning from Plusnet.

[snip]

>> However, at the foot of the letter there was a helpful bit:

[snip]

>By using it you confirm the validity of the email address and, as such,
>the address can be sold on to every other spam generator.

Note to Flop: snail mail != email.
--
Roger

"Andy Champ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed). uk...
> On 17/09/2010 11:48, Flop wrote:
>> On 17/09/2010 10:30, Allan wrote:
>>> Yes, I know, it's unusual to read positive comments about Plusnet on
>>> this group, but maybe a bit of balance doesn't go amiss?
>>>
>>> I got a piece of junk snail mail this morning from Plusnet. I haven't
>>> used Plusnet in ages, so I don't know whether they got my details from
>>> their old records, or off someone else's list, but no matter in this
>>> case). I am also on the Mail Preference Service (MPS
>>> http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/ ), so it probably shouldn't have happened.
>>>
>>> However, at the foot of the letter there was a helpful bit: "If you’d
>>> prefer not to receive any more mailings from us, simply visit
>>> http://www.plus.net/dm/optout/ and we’ll remove you from our list. We’re
>>> sorry to have bothered you."
>>>
>>> Not many companies include this sort of information on their mailings
>>> (or it's very hard to find), so that's a good start. The webpage itself
>>> is clear and helpful, and seems to work, and gives a response when the
>>> details are submitted. Pretty good, really.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>
>> Caveat.
>>
>> The less ethical spam merchants also offer this facility.
>>
>> By using it you confirm the validity of the email address and, as such,
>> the address can be sold on to every other spam generator.
>>
>> As a rule of thumb, programs such as MailWasher, offer the option to
>> 'bounce' the email back. It then appears to be a non-existent address.
>>
>> Flop
>>
>
> Tonight I had about 20 emails of the exact form you describe: bounces from
> applications where the recipient either no longer exists, or is pretending
> not to.
>
> Trouble is I didn't send any of the originals. The spammer won't know
> they were bounced.
>
> It isn't usually 20 - must be a new campaign!
>
> Andy



critcher said.....................

the best is to use mailwasher to peruse your emails and to delete what you
dont want.
Mailwasher is a good and useful program.

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:59:20 +0100, critcher wrote:

> "Andy Champ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed). uk...
>> On 17/09/2010 11:48, Flop wrote:
>>> On 17/09/2010 10:30, Allan wrote:
>>>> Yes, I know, it's unusual to read positive comments about Plusnet on
>>>> this group, but maybe a bit of balance doesn't go amiss?
>>>>
>>>> I got a piece of junk snail mail this morning from Plusnet. I haven't
>>>> used Plusnet in ages, so I don't know whether they got my details
>>>> from their old records, or off someone else's list, but no matter in
>>>> this case). I am also on the Mail Preference Service (MPS
>>>> http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/ ), so it probably shouldn't have
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> However, at the foot of the letter there was a helpful bit: "If
youÂ’d
>>>> prefer not to receive any more mailings from us, simply visit
>>>> http://www.plus.net/dm/optout/ and weÂ’ll remove you from our list.
>>>> WeÂ’re sorry to have bothered you."
>>>>
>>>> Not many companies include this sort of information on their mailings
>>>> (or it's very hard to find), so that's a good start. The webpage
>>>> itself is clear and helpful, and seems to work, and gives a response
>>>> when the details are submitted. Pretty good, really.
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>
>>> Caveat.
>>>
>>> The less ethical spam merchants also offer this facility.
>>>
>>> By using it you confirm the validity of the email address and, as
>>> such, the address can be sold on to every other spam generator.
>>>
>>> As a rule of thumb, programs such as MailWasher, offer the option to
>>> 'bounce' the email back. It then appears to be a non-existent address.
>>>
>>> Flop
>>>
>>>
>> Tonight I had about 20 emails of the exact form you describe: bounces
>> from applications where the recipient either no longer exists, or is
>> pretending not to.
>>
>> Trouble is I didn't send any of the originals. The spammer won't know
>> they were bounced.
>>
>> It isn't usually 20 - must be a new campaign!
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> critcher said.....................
>
> the best is to use mailwasher to peruse your emails and to delete what
> you dont want.
> Mailwasher is a good and useful program.


Pretty much a friggin' waste of time to deploy a program that downloads
UBE/UCE before it can classify it. What a plumb waste of friggin'
bandwidth.


--
BT Openreach Engineers - all they need to supply for work is their own
socks and pants

On 20/09/2010 18:59, critcher wrote:
> "Andy Champ"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed). uk...
>> On 17/09/2010 11:48, Flop wrote:
>>> On 17/09/2010 10:30, Allan wrote:
>>>> Yes, I know, it's unusual to read positive comments about Plusnet on
>>>> this group, but maybe a bit of balance doesn't go amiss?
>>>>
>>>> I got a piece of junk snail mail this morning from Plusnet. I haven't
>>>> used Plusnet in ages, so I don't know whether they got my details from
>>>> their old records, or off someone else's list, but no matter in this
>>>> case). I am also on the Mail Preference Service (MPS
>>>> http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/ ), so it probably shouldn't have happened.
>>>>
>>>> However, at the foot of the letter there was a helpful bit: "If you’d
>>>> prefer not to receive any more mailings from us, simply visit
>>>> http://www.plus.net/dm/optout/ and we’ll remove you from our list. We’re
>>>> sorry to have bothered you."
>>>>
>>>> Not many companies include this sort of information on their mailings
>>>> (or it's very hard to find), so that's a good start. The webpage itself
>>>> is clear and helpful, and seems to work, and gives a response when the
>>>> details are submitted. Pretty good, really.
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>
>>> Caveat.
>>>
>>> The less ethical spam merchants also offer this facility.
>>>
>>> By using it you confirm the validity of the email address and, as such,
>>> the address can be sold on to every other spam generator.
>>>
>>> As a rule of thumb, programs such as MailWasher, offer the option to
>>> 'bounce' the email back. It then appears to be a non-existent address.
>>>
>>> Flop
>>>
>>
>> Tonight I had about 20 emails of the exact form you describe: bounces from
>> applications where the recipient either no longer exists, or is pretending
>> not to.
>>
>> Trouble is I didn't send any of the originals. The spammer won't know
>> they were bounced.
>>
>> It isn't usually 20 - must be a new campaign!
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> critcher said.....................
>
> the best is to use mailwasher to peruse your emails and to delete what you
> dont want.
> Mailwasher is a good and useful program.

So is poptray, and it is free (http://www.poptray.org/). I use it all
the time on all computers.

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