Plus Net mail down TWO DAYS and still no fix in sight.

OK people time we sought some alternatives to PN as they are now
taking the proverbial P with this problem, perhaps they are waiting
for an Ebay auction to finish so they can obtain some parts as there
are clearly no reserves for this service.

It is quite apparent either the real engineers are still suffering a
hangover, dont exist or have all abandoned ship as the clock just
keeps getting put back and back on this fix. I imagine all they have
there is Blakey the cleaner trying his best with a broom and duster.
Well done Plus Net I knew it was a mistake trying you out for the last
two months, you're cowboys.

Not your only problems as has already been said here but even yet they
keep changing the goalposts:

ADSL problems for 30 Days 15 Hrs 9 Mins
Email problems for 1 Days 12 Hrs 0 Mins
Web Space & FTP 1 Days 10 Hrs 54 Mins
Usenet problems for 64 Days 20 Hrs 27 Mins (although google
reckons it's been forever)

I's say that was second rate in anyones book and contrary to the
updates business users are out as well and the problem has been going
on for much longer then claimed. What about the imaginary decreasing
of mail queues, does this mean you are losing the mail in the system
thereby ensuring we are really stuffed, how can a queue decrease if
you dont have a clue how to fix something, even the webmail is not
working.

Plus Net Service Status

Service Status Archive

Date and Time Notice
2004-12-27 22:24:15 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA
has now been extended. The network team have also stated that the mail
queues resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.


We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 10 hours.
A further update will be made at 9am tomorrow morning.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Martin Cundell
Customer Support
2004-12-27 21:07:57 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.


We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 6 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Martin Cundell
Customer Support
2004-12-27 20:06:35 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.


We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 7 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Martin Cundell
Customer Support
2004-12-27 19:07:42 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.


We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 8 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Martin Cundell
Customer Support
2004-12-27 17:44:02 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current.

We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 9 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Martin Cundell
Customer Support
2004-12-27 16:20:48 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current.

We exprect the matter to be resolved in approximately 10 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 15:25:53 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
still current.

We exprect the matter to be resolved in approximately 11 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 14:11:48 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken
longer then first thought.

Our current ETA for resolvement is now approximately 12 hours.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused

Kind Regards,
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 12:36:20 Email Problems - Update
In situations like this where our Email service is off-line, under
normal circumstances we would fall back to our Business Continuity
Platform. However this is a manual process which would take as long as
re-building the current server, so we have chosen not to take this
path as moving back to the standard platform will cause similar
issues.

An early estimate for the resolvement of the permissions problem is
6-8 hours.

From 1400 we will be updating service status hourly until the matter
is resolved.

Again we apologise for any inconvenience caused and would like to
assure our customers that we are looking at this as a matter of
priority.

Kind regards
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 11:29:49 Email Problems - update
Customers will have noticed service problems affecting POP3 and IMAP
email collection along with FTP updating. This unfortunate service
issue has been caused by an error on our main service creation server,

which has been completely rebuilt in the past couple of days as a
result of some major emergency maintenance to the server.
Unfortunately the replacement had an error in a script which has
caused user permissions on the affected services to be modified so
they are now incorrect.

We have identified the issue and have corrected the problem. Now we
are completing a total component refresh across all services, to
ensure all data and permissions are safe and reset to their correct
values.

We aplogise for the loss of service to you over this festive period,
and assure you this issue will be resolved as quickly as possible.

Kind regards
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 10:11:45 FTP Problems - Update
We are still investigating an issue whereby some customers cannot
upload or modify files on the FTP platform.
This will result in an error message along the lines of:
"Permission denied".

Our engineers are working on this problem and we will update you when
further information is available.

We would like to apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.


Kind Regards,
Luke Horwath
Customer Support
2004-12-27 08:34:02 Email Problems - update
Our engineers are still investigating problems with POP3 and IMAP
email collection, whereby customers are experiencing authentication
errors when logging into mailboxes.

Please again accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused by this
issue.


Kind Regards,
Nick Dodds
Customer Support
2004-12-26 22:54:42 FTP Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding FTP problems: Our
network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken longer
then first thought.

We will update you further when more information is available.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused

Kind Regards,
Jonathon Smith
Customer Support
2004-12-26 22:53:11 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken
longer then first thought.

We will update you further when more information is available.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused

Kind Regards,
Jonathon Smith
Customer Support
2004-12-26 20:25:55 FTP Problems
We are currently investigating an issue whereby some customers cannot
upload or modify files on the FTP platform.
This will result in an error message along the lines of:
"Permission denied".

Our engineers are working on this problem currently and we would like
to apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Kind Regards,
Jonathon Smith
Customer Support
2004-12-26 19:19:45 Email Problems
We are currently investigating problems with POP3 and IMAP email
collection.

Our network team are looking into this issue and we will update you as
soon as more information is available.

Kind Regards
Scott Elliott
Customer Support
2004-12-26 17:41:16 CGI Website Issue - Resolved
The earlier problem with the CGI platform have now been resolved and
sites should be displaying normally.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.


Kind Regards
Scott Elliott
Customer Support
2004-12-26 17:06:48 CGI Website Issue
Unfortunately some customers may currently be experiencing problems
viewing their CGI websites, also access via ftp or telnet may also be
problematic.

Be assured our network engineers are currently investigating the cause
of the problem and we will provide an update as soon as one is
available.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards
Scott Elliott
Customer Support
2004-12-26 10:17:25 CGI Server Problems Resolved
The earlier problem with the CGI platform being unavailable has now
been resolved and sites should be displaying normally.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.


Kind Regards
Stewart Norriss
Customer Support
2004-12-26 08:41:24 CGI Website Issue
Some customers may be experiencing problems viewing their CGI
websites.

Our network engineers are currently investigating the cause of the
problem and we will provide and update shortly.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.


Kind Regards
Stewart Norriss
Customer Support

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:37:02 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Donald
Monkshabit) wrote:

>OK people time we sought some alternatives to PN as they are now
>taking the proverbial P with this problem, perhaps they are waiting
>for an Ebay auction to finish so they can obtain some parts as there
>are clearly no reserves for this service.
>
>It is quite apparent either the real engineers are still suffering a
>hangover, dont exist or have all abandoned ship as the clock just
>keeps getting put back and back on this fix. I imagine all they have
>there is Blakey the cleaner trying his best with a broom and duster.
>Well done Plus Net I knew it was a mistake trying you out for the last
>two months, you're cowboys.
>
>Not your only problems as has already been said here but even yet they
>keep changing the goalposts:
>
>ADSL problems for 30 Days 15 Hrs 9 Mins
>Email problems for 1 Days 12 Hrs 0 Mins
>Web Space & FTP 1 Days 10 Hrs 54 Mins
>Usenet problems for 64 Days 20 Hrs 27 Mins (although google
>reckons it's been forever)
>
>I's say that was second rate in anyones book and contrary to the
>updates business users are out as well and the problem has been going
>on for much longer then claimed. What about the imaginary decreasing
>of mail queues, does this mean you are losing the mail in the system
>thereby ensuring we are really stuffed, how can a queue decrease if
>you dont have a clue how to fix something, even the webmail is not
>working.
>
>Plus Net Service Status
>
>Service Status Archive
>
>Date and Time Notice
>2004-12-27 22:24:15 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA
>has now been extended. The network team have also stated that the mail
>queues resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.
>
>
>We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 10 hours.
>A further update will be made at 9am tomorrow morning.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Martin Cundell
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 21:07:57 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
>resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.
>
>
>We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 6 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Martin Cundell
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 20:06:35 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
>resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.
>
>
>We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 7 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Martin Cundell
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 19:07:42 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current. The network team have also stated that the mail queues
>resulting from the problems have now started to decrease.
>
>
>We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 8 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Martin Cundell
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 17:44:02 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current.
>
>We expect the matter to be resolved in approximately 9 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Martin Cundell
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 16:20:48 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current.
>
>We exprect the matter to be resolved in approximately 10 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 15:25:53 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA is
>still current.
>
>We exprect the matter to be resolved in approximately 11 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 14:11:48 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken
>longer then first thought.
>
>Our current ETA for resolvement is now approximately 12 hours.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused
>
>Kind Regards,
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 12:36:20 Email Problems - Update
>In situations like this where our Email service is off-line, under
>normal circumstances we would fall back to our Business Continuity
>Platform. However this is a manual process which would take as long as
>re-building the current server, so we have chosen not to take this
>path as moving back to the standard platform will cause similar
>issues.
>
>An early estimate for the resolvement of the permissions problem is
>6-8 hours.
>
>From 1400 we will be updating service status hourly until the matter
>is resolved.
>
>Again we apologise for any inconvenience caused and would like to
>assure our customers that we are looking at this as a matter of
>priority.
>
>Kind regards
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 11:29:49 Email Problems - update
>Customers will have noticed service problems affecting POP3 and IMAP
>email collection along with FTP updating. This unfortunate service
>issue has been caused by an error on our main service creation server,
>
>which has been completely rebuilt in the past couple of days as a
>result of some major emergency maintenance to the server.
>Unfortunately the replacement had an error in a script which has
>caused user permissions on the affected services to be modified so
>they are now incorrect.
>
>We have identified the issue and have corrected the problem. Now we
>are completing a total component refresh across all services, to
>ensure all data and permissions are safe and reset to their correct
>values.
>
>We aplogise for the loss of service to you over this festive period,
>and assure you this issue will be resolved as quickly as possible.
>
>Kind regards
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 10:11:45 FTP Problems - Update
>We are still investigating an issue whereby some customers cannot
>upload or modify files on the FTP platform.
>This will result in an error message along the lines of:
>"Permission denied".
>
>Our engineers are working on this problem and we will update you when
>further information is available.
>
>We would like to apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.
>
>
>Kind Regards,
>Luke Horwath
>Customer Support
>2004-12-27 08:34:02 Email Problems - update
>Our engineers are still investigating problems with POP3 and IMAP
>email collection, whereby customers are experiencing authentication
>errors when logging into mailboxes.
>
>Please again accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused by this
>issue.
>
>
>Kind Regards,
>Nick Dodds
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 22:54:42 FTP Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding FTP problems: Our
>network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken longer
>then first thought.
>
>We will update you further when more information is available.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused
>
>Kind Regards,
>Jonathon Smith
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 22:53:11 Email Problems - Update
>Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
>Our network team are still working on the issue, but it has taken
>longer then first thought.
>
>We will update you further when more information is available.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused
>
>Kind Regards,
>Jonathon Smith
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 20:25:55 FTP Problems
>We are currently investigating an issue whereby some customers cannot
>upload or modify files on the FTP platform.
>This will result in an error message along the lines of:
>"Permission denied".
>
>Our engineers are working on this problem currently and we would like
>to apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Jonathon Smith
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 19:19:45 Email Problems
>We are currently investigating problems with POP3 and IMAP email
>collection.
>
>Our network team are looking into this issue and we will update you as
>soon as more information is available.
>
>Kind Regards
>Scott Elliott
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 17:41:16 CGI Website Issue - Resolved
>The earlier problem with the CGI platform have now been resolved and
>sites should be displaying normally.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>
>Kind Regards
>Scott Elliott
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 17:06:48 CGI Website Issue
>Unfortunately some customers may currently be experiencing problems
>viewing their CGI websites, also access via ftp or telnet may also be
>problematic.
>
>Be assured our network engineers are currently investigating the cause
>of the problem and we will provide an update as soon as one is
>available.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>Kind Regards
>Scott Elliott
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 10:17:25 CGI Server Problems Resolved
>The earlier problem with the CGI platform being unavailable has now
>been resolved and sites should be displaying normally.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>
>Kind Regards
>Stewart Norriss
>Customer Support
>2004-12-26 08:41:24 CGI Website Issue
>Some customers may be experiencing problems viewing their CGI
>websites.
>
>Our network engineers are currently investigating the cause of the
>problem and we will provide and update shortly.
>
>Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
>
>
>Kind Regards
>Stewart Norriss
>Customer Support
>


This will please you then, they don't even answer emails, no wonder
they are in no hurry to fix it.


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From: (E-Mail Removed) ((E-Mail Removed))
Subject: Re: ADSL Provider With Free Activivation And No India Based
Technical Support?


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Date: 2004-12-20 00:45:40 PST


"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> PlusNet has recently won awards as best customer ISP and another for best
> customer service, they even reply to posts on uk.telecom.broadband !

Yes, but they don't reply to E-Mails.

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From: PlusNet Support ((E-Mail Removed))
Subject: Re: ADSL Provider With Free Activivation And No India Based
Technical Support?


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Date: 2004-12-20 10:00:04 PST


On 20 Dec 2004 08:45:38 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> PlusNet has recently won awards as best customer ISP and another for best
>> customer service, they even reply to posts on uk.telecom.broadband !
>
>Yes, but they don't reply to E-Mails.

Hi there,

No we don't. We have an sales enquiry tool on the website or you could
always call us if you have a few questons.

kind regards

Luke
--
| Luke Horwath Broadband Solutions
| Comms team for Home & Business
| PlusNet Plc @ http://www.plus.net
+ ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet -----+
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From: Peter Gradwell ((E-Mail Removed))
Subject: Re: ADSL Provider With Free Activivation And No India Based
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Date: 2004-12-20 10:21:28 PST


On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:57:22 +0000, PlusNet Support
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 20 Dec 2004 08:45:38 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> PlusNet has recently won awards as best customer ISP and another for best
>>> customer service, they even reply to posts on uk.telecom.broadband !
>>
>>Yes, but they don't reply to E-Mails.
>
>Hi there,
>
>No we don't.

You don't reply to emails? That's friendly...

peter

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From: PlusNet Support ((E-Mail Removed))
Subject: Re: ADSL Provider With Free Activivation And No India Based
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Date: 2004-12-20 12:40:10 PST


On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:21:27 +0000, Peter Gradwell
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:57:22 +0000, PlusNet Support
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On 20 Dec 2004 08:45:38 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>>>"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>> PlusNet has recently won awards as best customer ISP and another for best
>>>> customer service, they even reply to posts on uk.telecom.broadband !
>>>
>>>Yes, but they don't reply to E-Mails.
>>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>No we don't.
>
>You don't reply to emails? That's friendly...
>
>peter

We just don't find it an accountable way to communicate with our
customers. Also with our intenal system, contact via the portal is
easier to manage, delegate, report on and respond to in a timely
manner.

kind regards

Luke
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| Comms team for Home & Business
| PlusNet Plc @ http://www.plus.net
+ ----- My Referrals - It pays to recommend PlusNet -----+


AND TO TOP IT ALL the latest update they have is

Date and Time Notice
28/12/2004 @ 09:09 Email Problems - Update
Following on from the earlier announcement regarding email problems:
Our network team are still working on the issue and the initial ETA
has been extended. Our network support team have also stated that the
mail queues resulting from the problems have significantly decreased.


A further update will be made at 1pm or as soon as a further update is
available, unfortunately we do not currently have an ETA for full
resolution.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,
Scott Elliott
Customer Support




This could go on for weeks hahahahahahahahaha


Fuck Plusnet find another ISP who gives a fuck.

"Simon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:37:02 GMT,

<SNIP>

This could go on for weeks hahahahahahahahaha


Fuck Plusnet find another ISP who gives a fuck.

Complaint sent to: (E-Mail Removed)

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:34:50 +0000, Simon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Fuck Plusnet find another ISP who gives a fuck.

Antipodean troll.
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Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:41:46 -0000, "Me and myself" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>"Simon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:37:02 GMT,
>
><SNIP>
>
>This could go on for weeks hahahahahahahahaha
>
>
>Fuck Plusnet find another ISP who gives a fuck.
>
>Complaint sent to: (E-Mail Removed)
>

NET NANNY CUNT.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:49:17 +0000, Dr Teeth
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:34:50 +0000, Simon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Fuck Plusnet find another ISP who gives a fuck.
>
>Antipodean troll.

Jackoff I'd email you abuse, spam and pics of dead bodies but you wont
get it you're with Plusnet and their email sucks Bwahahahaha

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:58:50 +0000, Simon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<troll's useless input>

go play with your toys, kiddo

"Donald Monkshabit" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK people time we sought some alternatives to PN as they are now
> taking the proverbial P with this problem, perhaps they are waiting
> for an Ebay auction to finish so they can obtain some parts as there
> are clearly no reserves for this service.
>

I've had no problems, admittedly not used it as much over the festive
period, my secondary mail account seemed to work fine.


--
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> OK people time we sought some alternatives to PN as they are now
> taking the proverbial P with this problem, perhaps they are waiting

To be fair most people these days tend to go with a 3rd party email provider
eg hotmail or yahoo or they tend to get a private domain with email services
so that they are not tied down to a single provider for their internet
access and email services.

I've never expected anything from an ISP other than plain old internet
access. Anything else is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

--
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John Lyons
Netserve Consultants Ltd

Ask us about our online Antivirus and Junk mail scanning service
http://www.domaincity.co.uk +-+-+-+ (E-Mail Removed)

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:13:29 -0000, [John Lyons] said :-

>> OK people time we sought some alternatives to PN as they are now
>> taking the proverbial P with this problem, perhaps they are waiting
>
>To be fair most people these days tend to go with a 3rd party email provider
>eg hotmail or yahoo or they tend to get a private domain with email services
>so that they are not tied down to a single provider for their internet
>access and email services.

Total rubbish, most people do _not_ do that at all.

>
>I've never expected anything from an ISP other than plain old internet
>access. Anything else is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.


There are millions of home users who will only be using the ISP mail
address etc.