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Colin Wilson
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      11-12-2003, 01:23 AM

Per the report below, the mail server is now working again, but I fear
they're in pantomine mood early this year...

OH NO IT ISN'T !
"we'll pretend it is"
OH NO IT ISN'T !

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Announcement Updated 12/11/03 at 02:00

Report: Access to some PIPEX mailboxes was not possible during
yesterday afternoon and evening (Tuesday 11 November).

Symptoms: Attempts to login produced a username and password
rejection.

Actions: A team has been working from early afternoon yesterday on
this issue and email service has now been restored on the server which
had the problem.

Any email which has arrived for delivery since the server problems began
early on Tuesday afternoon is being delivered to mailboxes as normal.
However, any stored email on the affected server that has not been
downloaded is currently not accessable. Work will continue during this
week to attempt to recover these messages and restore them to affected
mailboxes, but this work may take some time and not all of the data may
be recoverable.

Our sincere apologies for this problem which has been caused by a major
hardware failure within our mailserver system.
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ian
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      11-12-2003, 09:05 AM
it was working for me at 6 this morning before I left for work - died at
about 3pm yesterday afternoon.


"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
>
> Per the report below, the mail server is now working again, but I fear
> they're in pantomine mood early this year...
>
> OH NO IT ISN'T !
> "we'll pretend it is"
> OH NO IT ISN'T !
>
> ---
> Announcement Updated 12/11/03 at 02:00
>
> Report: Access to some PIPEX mailboxes was not possible during
> yesterday afternoon and evening (Tuesday 11 November).
>
> Symptoms: Attempts to login produced a username and password
> rejection.
>
> Actions: A team has been working from early afternoon yesterday on
> this issue and email service has now been restored on the server which
> had the problem.
>
> Any email which has arrived for delivery since the server problems began
> early on Tuesday afternoon is being delivered to mailboxes as normal.
> However, any stored email on the affected server that has not been
> downloaded is currently not accessable. Work will continue during this
> week to attempt to recover these messages and restore them to affected
> mailboxes, but this work may take some time and not all of the data may
> be recoverable.
>
> Our sincere apologies for this problem which has been caused by a major
> hardware failure within our mailserver system.
> ---
>
> --
> Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email
> * old email address "btiruseless" abandoned due to worm-generated spam *
> --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it ;-) ---



 
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kenward@ukgateway.net
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      11-12-2003, 04:10 PM
Died big time.

This is the first time that they have ever admitted that mail might be
lost.

Perhaps some of the experts could comment on what this tells us about
the resiliency of the Pipex system.

Seems dodgy to me.

MJK




On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:05:00 +0000 (UTC), "ian"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>it was working for me at 6 this morning before I left for work - died at
>about 3pm yesterday afternoon.
>
>
>"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed) et...
>>
>> Per the report below, the mail server is now working again, but I fear
>> they're in pantomine mood early this year...
>>
>> OH NO IT ISN'T !
>> "we'll pretend it is"
>> OH NO IT ISN'T !
>>
>> ---
>> Announcement Updated 12/11/03 at 02:00
>>
>> Report: Access to some PIPEX mailboxes was not possible during
>> yesterday afternoon and evening (Tuesday 11 November).
>>
>> Symptoms: Attempts to login produced a username and password
>> rejection.
>>
>> Actions: A team has been working from early afternoon yesterday on
>> this issue and email service has now been restored on the server which
>> had the problem.
>>
>> Any email which has arrived for delivery since the server problems began
>> early on Tuesday afternoon is being delivered to mailboxes as normal.
>> However, any stored email on the affected server that has not been
>> downloaded is currently not accessable. Work will continue during this
>> week to attempt to recover these messages and restore them to affected
>> mailboxes, but this work may take some time and not all of the data may
>> be recoverable.
>>
>> Our sincere apologies for this problem which has been caused by a major
>> hardware failure within our mailserver system.
>> ---
>>
>> --
>> Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email
>> * old email address "btiruseless" abandoned due to worm-generated spam *
>> --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it ;-) ---

>


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Treefrog
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      11-13-2003, 09:18 AM
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Died big time.
>
> This is the first time that they have ever admitted that mail might be
> lost.
>
> Perhaps some of the experts could comment on what this tells us about
> the resiliency of the Pipex system.
>
> Seems dodgy to me.
>
> MJK


Don't be too harsh with them unless it's a regular occurance. Sometimes
things just don't go to plan.

Imagine this: Some little bastards in a far away country are nailing the
mail server because they found a formail.cgi exploit on a customers website
which you host. The server is used for both sending and receiving mail, but
because the server's on it's knees trying to cope with all this outgoing
mail, it's too busy to accept the incoming mail. Effectively, it's having a
fit and can't do anything.
Meanwhile, customers are ringing up left right and center totally irate
about not being able to get any email.
The system administrators are pulling their hair out because they know how
pissed the customers are AND that their network isn't running smoothly (most
important factor ;o). In order to fix the problem, the offending formail.cgi
script has to be found and patched but that wont help the mail server which
has locked up by now. The mail server gets restarted but there are still
many thousand messages in the queue, within the queue might be genuine
emails from customers but to fix the problem, the queue must be purged -
customers lose mail.
Just when the admin thinks he's in the clear, he hears the distant barrage
of more irate customers yelling about how their emails aren't being sent.

Okay, I know this (probably) isn't what happend with Pipex, but it hopefully
shows that sometimes it isn't always their fault.
However, I do think ISP's should be honest wth their customers, if there's a
problem tell them what it is and when it should be fixed.


 
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Colin Wilson
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      11-13-2003, 10:39 PM
> Don't be too harsh with them unless it's a regular occurance. Sometimes
> things just don't go to plan.


I know, afaik this was only the third outage since I joined them in Feb
this year, whereas BTbrokenet manage(s/d) that on a weekly basis.

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graham butcher
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      11-15-2003, 08:16 PM
If your email still is not getting through it might be the same fault as I
had, I too thought my email was the result of the Pipex server crashing but
it turned out to be something that I downloaded that had triggered my Norton
Protect into shutting of the ports that are used for email. I could still
get on line but not send or receive emails.

Working with Pipex Support team, we tried this and that and eventually
decided that it was my Norton System Works at fault. Deinstalling this and
then doing a reinstall cured the problem. So you see, you might be blaming
poor old Pipex for something that might be nothing to do with them. If you
have a Norton package or a firewall on your PC, try to disable it, you might
find your emails are working again.

Regards,


Graham.


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Died big time.
>
> This is the first time that they have ever admitted that mail might be
> lost.
>
> Perhaps some of the experts could comment on what this tells us about
> the resiliency of the Pipex system.
>
> Seems dodgy to me.
>
> MJK
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:05:00 +0000 (UTC), "ian"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >it was working for me at 6 this morning before I left for work - died at
> >about 3pm yesterday afternoon.
> >
> >
> >"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed) et...
> >>
> >> Per the report below, the mail server is now working again, but I fear
> >> they're in pantomine mood early this year...
> >>
> >> OH NO IT ISN'T !
> >> "we'll pretend it is"
> >> OH NO IT ISN'T !
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Announcement Updated 12/11/03 at 02:00
> >>
> >> Report: Access to some PIPEX mailboxes was not possible during
> >> yesterday afternoon and evening (Tuesday 11 November).
> >>
> >> Symptoms: Attempts to login produced a username and password
> >> rejection.
> >>
> >> Actions: A team has been working from early afternoon yesterday on
> >> this issue and email service has now been restored on the server which
> >> had the problem.
> >>
> >> Any email which has arrived for delivery since the server problems

began
> >> early on Tuesday afternoon is being delivered to mailboxes as normal.
> >> However, any stored email on the affected server that has not been
> >> downloaded is currently not accessable. Work will continue during this
> >> week to attempt to recover these messages and restore them to affected
> >> mailboxes, but this work may take some time and not all of the data may
> >> be recoverable.
> >>
> >> Our sincere apologies for this problem which has been caused by a major
> >> hardware failure within our mailserver system.
> >> ---
> >>
> >> --
> >> Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via

email
> >> * old email address "btiruseless" abandoned due to worm-generated spam

*
> >> --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it

;-) ---
> >

>
> __________________________________________________ _____________________
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Colin Wilson
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      11-15-2003, 09:11 PM
> If you have a Norton package or a firewall on your PC

<cough splutter> never again !

It`s been fine since the following morning, and as i`ve said in the past,
i`m perfectly happy with their uptime compared to other ISPs i`ve been
with... :-)

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