Pipex and ICS

I currently have a dial up connection, Win XP and 2 other PCs connected via
a coax ethernet. When Pipex ADSL is connected will I still be able to use
ICS as before?
Cheers, JerryP

> I currently have a dial up connection, Win XP and 2 other PCs connected via
> a coax ethernet. When Pipex ADSL is connected will I still be able to use
> ICS as before?

Can`t see there being a problem, but it might also be worth considering a
cheap router - www.ebuyer.com sell the ASR-8400 which has had good write-
ups and i`m using an AR41 which they are getting back in stock.

Either will cost you less than £50 and have a modem built in, so you`re
not forced to use a USB one and any PC would be able to use the net
independantly of the current ICS machine being switched on.

You also get an added layer of security, as the IP address from your
ISP only gets as far as your router, and you are allocated a new one by
the router which only exists "locally". Its harder to hack a machine if
you can`t get to it directly. The router handles the incoming data by
using NAT (network address translation) which remembers which "local" IP
address requested data from a site.

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"JerryP" <j.paris@"NO_SPAM_PLEASE"virgin.net> wrote in message
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> I currently have a dial up connection, Win XP and 2 other PCs connected
via
> a coax ethernet. When Pipex ADSL is connected will I still be able to use
> ICS as before?
> Cheers, JerryP
>
>
>

Are you seriously still using a coax network?

Might be cheaper to get a CAT5/RJ45 router and a new NIC for each of the
PC's.

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:40:27 -0000, "HamMan"
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>
>"JerryP" <j.paris@"NO_SPAM_PLEASE"virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:bng9jo$aca$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I currently have a dial up connection, Win XP and 2 other PCs connected
>via
>> a coax ethernet. When Pipex ADSL is connected will I still be able to use
>> ICS as before?
>> Cheers, JerryP
>>
>>
>>
>
>Are you seriously still using a coax network?
>
>Might be cheaper to get a CAT5/RJ45 router and a new NIC for each of the
>PC's.
>


ICS does not equal "direct connect".

It also works with NICs and a "crossover" connection. This eliminates
the need for a router.

MK




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In message <bngfbd$1of$(E-Mail Removed)>, HamMan
<(E-Mail Removed) > writes
>
>"JerryP" <j.paris@"NO_SPAM_PLEASE"virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:bng9jo$aca$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I currently have a dial up connection, Win XP and 2 other PCs connected
>via
>> a coax ethernet. When Pipex ADSL is connected will I still be able to use
>> ICS as before?
>> Cheers, JerryP
>>
>>
>>
>
>Are you seriously still using a coax network?
>
>Might be cheaper to get a CAT5/RJ45 router and a new NIC for each of the
>PC's.
>
>
Cheaper still to leave the coax alone and get a USB modem for the
ADSL/ICS machine. 10base2 is still more than adequate for many
applications and ICS is one of them. Remember, if it aint broke, don't
fix it.
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Clint

"Clint Sharp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message <bngfbd$1of$(E-Mail Removed)>, HamMan
> <(E-Mail Removed) > writes

> Cheaper still to leave the coax alone and get a USB modem for the
> ADSL/ICS machine. 10base2 is still more than adequate for many
> applications and ICS is one of them. Remember, if it aint broke, don't
> fix it.
> --
> Clint

BUT the most common usb modems don't work well with some common PC chips
sets, and you end up fitting a PCI USB 2.card to work round and get it
working reliably -- by the time you do that it is cheaper and less
frustrating to do the job right in the first place and put a cheap 4 port +
usb router and two Realtek 8139 PCI 100baseT ethernet cards in. The
network setup is very simple especially as the router takes care of the IP
addressing and modern PCI network cards are very much plug and play. The
added bonus is a switched 100baseT network that is at least 10 times faster
and more reliable than co-ax AND the router has a built in basic firewall.
Because connecting with a router is cheap and gives a reliable 24/7
connection with firewall I now recommend an ADSL router even if it only
a single computer is connected. A firewall of some kind is essential with
any broadband conection.

> Are you seriously still using a coax network?

holy crap, I missed that !

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:04:10 +0000 (UTC), "AWM"
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>do the job right in the first place and put a cheap 4 port + usb router and
>two Realtek 8139 PCI 100baseT ethernet cards in. The network setup is very
>simple especially as the router takes care of the IP addressing and modern
>PCI network cards are very much plug and play.

I picked up a single (10 Mbps) ADSL router (AR11) and with an old hub, I've
8 ports for RJ45 and coax connected for some other PCs. Replacing with new
NICs is hardly necessary, and I expect one can pick up an old hub for a few
quid less than most 10/100 hubs/switches.

>The added bonus is a switched 100baseT network that is at least 10 times
>faster and more reliable than co-ax AND the router has a built in basic
>firewall. Because connecting with a router is cheap and gives a reliable
>24/7 connection with firewall I now recommend an ADSL router even if it
>only a single computer is connected. A firewall of some kind is essential
>with any broadband conection.

I can accept the 100baseT being faster, but there have been coax LANs going
for a long while, and if the cables are untouched, why should it be any less
reliable ? I'd certainly agree about a router in preference to a USB modem
(or a PCI card, if there may be applications where a router could be a pain)
but there are single-port routers just as good as the 4-port 10/100 units!