Pipex account

Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex. The router was
sent to me (we're about 60 miles apart.
He's given me his username and password and I'd like to have a look at his
account and set up some e-mail address, but I can't get in.

Now, he's a bit vague on most things and he's had no letter or anything
from Pipex.

Is the format of the username the full addy, e.g. (E-Mail Removed) or
just part of it? (I'me assuming that the username is the address or part of
it).

Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?

Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?

I know that his line has been activated: Pipex told him so and it now has
ADSL on it and never had before.
--
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

PeterC wrote:
> Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex. The router was
> sent to me (we're about 60 miles apart.
> He's given me his username and password and I'd like to have a look at his
> account and set up some e-mail address, but I can't get in.
>
> Now, he's a bit vague on most things and he's had no letter or anything
> from Pipex.
>
> Is the format of the username the full addy, e.g. (E-Mail Removed)

That is normal for most ISP's

or
> just part of it? (I'me assuming that the username is the address or part of
> it).
>
> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>

If its not LLUed as far as I know you can log in anywhere..


> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?
>

Yes, but its PIPEX fer chrissake. Peter's Internet Penis Enhancement
eXtravaganza as we used to know it has when Dickhead "you don't need to
make money to make money" Dawe ran it..



> I know that his line has been activated: Pipex told him so and it now has
> ADSL on it and never had before.

Tht just means the BT bit is up.
Try all combinatins..

"PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1xm6c0ildkltd$.(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex. The router
> was
> sent to me (we're about 60 miles apart.
> He's given me his username and password and I'd like to have a look at his
> account and set up some e-mail address, but I can't get in.
>
> Now, he's a bit vague on most things and he's had no letter or anything
> from Pipex.
>
> Is the format of the username the full addy, e.g. (E-Mail Removed) or
> just part of it? (I'me assuming that the username is the address or part
> of
> it).
>
> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>
> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?
>
> I know that his line has been activated: Pipex told him so and it now has
> ADSL on it and never had before.
> --
> Peter.
> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
> It's not rocket science, you know.
>

What a completely stupid way of doing things! The ISP provides a
CD with easy to follow instructions that will configure it. If your mate
is that thick he can't use it, what do you think will happen when he opens
Internet explorer or Outlook express. Are you configuring that for him?
Just wait until he phones to ask "well what does it do!" - or when a page
he wants doesn't appear.
If he has had no letter, he will not know what his user name and password
is.
That's if it uses that and doesn't use a MAC number for access.
It would have been easier to visit him once the router was delivered to
his home address. You will not be able to use it from your address.

"The Natural Philosopher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> PeterC wrote:
>> Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex. The router
>> was
>> sent to me (we're about 60 miles apart.
>> He's given me his username and password and I'd like to have a look at
>> his
>> account and set up some e-mail address, but I can't get in.
>>
>> Now, he's a bit vague on most things and he's had no letter or anything
>> from Pipex.
>>
>> Is the format of the username the full addy, e.g. (E-Mail Removed)
>
> That is normal for most ISP's
>
> or
>> just part of it? (I'me assuming that the username is the address or part
>> of
>> it).
>>
>> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
>> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>>
>
> If its not LLUed as far as I know you can log in anywhere..
>
>

You can't.


>> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?
>>
>
> Yes, but its PIPEX fer chrissake. Peter's Internet Penis Enhancement
> eXtravaganza as we used to know it has when Dickhead "you don't need to
> make money to make money" Dawe ran it..
>
>
>
>> I know that his line has been activated: Pipex told him so and it now has
>> ADSL on it and never had before.
>
> Tht just means the BT bit is up.
> Try all combinatins..
>

It means a physical connection has been made at the local exchange. Once
PIPEX
sorts his account they will send hi the details.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:21:38 GMT, Ato_Zee wrote:

> How does he know his line has ADSL on it if he can't
> plug in the router because you still have it?
> There is no proof he has carrier until you physically
> prove it by plugging in the router.

Just trying his number on a couple sites - a month ago there was no ADSl
and now there is.
--
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:25:47 -0000, James R wrote:

>>> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
>>> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>>>
>>
>> If its not LLUed as far as I know you can log in anywhere..
>>
>>
>
>You can't.

It depends. Assuming he's not LLUed BT will route the connection for
the line to the ISP who pays them for the connection. Once at the ISP
it's up to them if they want to authenticate via username and password.
As far as I'm aware BT are the only ISP who doesn't validate with
username/password. So if the OP is with Pipex as well then it should,
in theory, work otherwise no chance.

>>> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?

If he hasn't got paperwork how did he get his username and password? If
it was by email that may be all he gets.

--
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:23:17 -0000, James R wrote:

> "PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1xm6c0ildkltd$.(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex. The router
>> was
>> sent to me (we're about 60 miles apart.
>> He's given me his username and password and I'd like to have a look at his
>> account and set up some e-mail address, but I can't get in.
>>
>> Now, he's a bit vague on most things and he's had no letter or anything
>> from Pipex.
>>
>> Is the format of the username the full addy, e.g. (E-Mail Removed) or
>> just part of it? (I'me assuming that the username is the address or part
>> of
>> it).
>>
>> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
>> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>>
>> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?
>>
>> I know that his line has been activated: Pipex told him so and it now has
>> ADSL on it and never had before.
>> --
>> Peter.
>> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
>> It's not rocket science, you know.
>>
>
> What a completely stupid way of doing things! The ISP provides a
> CD with easy to follow instructions that will configure it. If your mate
> is that thick he can't use it, what do you think will happen when he opens
> Internet explorer or Outlook express. Are you configuring that for him?
> Just wait until he phones to ask "well what does it do!" - or when a page
> he wants doesn't appear.

I have the router because I built the PC and still have it here.

It's not a wireless one - just a single port ADSL job, so there's no
software to install. I've had his PC connected to my account, so it works.

I'll configure T'bird 3 for him - OE isn't on either of our PCs.

> If he has had no letter, he will not know what his user name and password
> is.

He was given those verbally at the same time as he asked for the hardware
to be sent to me.

> That's if it uses that and doesn't use a MAC number for access.
> It would have been easier to visit him once the router was delivered to
> his home address. You will not be able to use it from your address.

I thought not -- thanks for the confirmation.

I tried PN a couple of times but there was a 15 minute queue each time.
--
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

PeterC wrote:

> Just set up a PC for a friend and he's signed up with Pipex.

Oh dear. Any chance of geting a decent ISP by cancelling the contract pronto ?

Graham

In uk.telecom.broadband, on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:55:57, Andy Burns wrote:

>James R wrote:
>
>> What a completely stupid way of doing things! The ISP provides a
>> CD with easy to follow instructions that will configure it
>
>The best thing to do with any ISP provided CD is snap it in half and
>chuck it in the bin.

+1000

ISP's CDs are invariably NOT helpful.

--
Jim Crowther

Rodney Pont wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:25:47 -0000, James R wrote:
>
>>>> Can I actually do this from a different line (I'm assuming that I can't
>>>> actually connect his PC to Pipex from my line)?
>>>>
>>> If its not LLUed as far as I know you can log in anywhere..
>>>
>>>
>> You can't.
>
> It depends. Assuming he's not LLUed BT will route the connection for
> the line to the ISP who pays them for the connection. Once at the ISP
> it's up to them if they want to authenticate via username and password.
> As far as I'm aware BT are the only ISP who doesn't validate with
> username/password. So if the OP is with Pipex as well then it should,
> in theory, work otherwise no chance.
>

Not eeven that restricted. As far as I know, which aint 100%, the
sequence goes this way.

You sync, and get a chap challenge.

The respnse goes to BT'ds PROXY radius server, who, on the basis of what
part of the address is, then route the ATM circuit to the ISP, and pass
the name/password to them and set up the ATM routing.

Thats WHY you always have an ISP specific part of the login name. To let
BT' shit know which ISP to pass it to.

Now whether or not there is a further layer to allow only a given phone
number to log in to that account I dot know.


>>>> Should he have had some paperwork from Pipex?
>
> If he hasn't got paperwork how did he get his username and password? If
> it was by email that may be all he gets.
>
So how does he receve that e-mail if he isn't (yet) online :-0)