Phorm detector website

http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/

Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?

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> http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/
>
> Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?

if you look at the description, the tests are all about detecting
alterations to the requested web page.

what they are looking for is ads injected by the ISP while you view an
arbitary page.

AFAICT the Phorm stuff doesnt do that - it inject cookies and then hoovers
them up later, so it can tell companies who buy into the OIX system which
ads to send to you - but only when you visit their sites.

So - not sure this helps with Phorm....
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>> http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/
>>
>> Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?
>
> if you look at the description, the tests are all about detecting
> alterations to the requested web page.
>
> what they are looking for is ads injected by the ISP while you view an
> arbitary page.
>
> AFAICT the Phorm stuff doesnt do that - it inject cookies and then hoovers
> them up later, so it can tell companies who buy into the OIX system which
> ads to send to you - but only when you visit their sites.
>
> So - not sure this helps with Phorm....


Thanks Stephen.
That will teach me for repeating assmptions made in uk.legal....
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Graham. wrote:
>>> http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/
>>>
>>> Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?
>> if you look at the description, the tests are all about detecting
>> alterations to the requested web page.
>>
>> what they are looking for is ads injected by the ISP while you view an
>> arbitary page.
>>
>> AFAICT the Phorm stuff doesnt do that - it inject cookies and then hoovers
>> them up later, so it can tell companies who buy into the OIX system which
>> ads to send to you - but only when you visit their sites.
>>
>> So - not sure this helps with Phorm....
>
>
> Thanks Stephen.
> That will teach me for repeating assmptions made in uk.legal....

There may be a way that a site can detect phorm see

http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2...phorm-cookies/

Andy.

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:38:46 +0000, stephen wrote:

> "Graham." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:fuve7f$7jf$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/
>>
>> Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?
>
> if you look at the description, the tests are all about detecting
> alterations to the requested web page.
>
> what they are looking for is ads injected by the ISP while you view an
> arbitary page.

No that's wrong. What they are looking for are changes to the pages html.

For example when I have privoxy "on" they detect changes but no adverts
have been served by anyone. What they have detected are just a bunch of
css style sheets which I have privoxy insert.

> AFAICT the Phorm stuff doesnt do that - it inject cookies and then hoovers
> them up later, so it can tell companies who buy into the OIX system which
> ads to send to you - but only when you visit their sites.
>
> So - not sure this helps with Phorm....

That's right.

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>> Graham
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Graham. wrote:
> http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/
>
> Anyone using a compromised ISP care to try it?

Have a look at http://www.dephormation.org.uk/web_masters.html

Particularly the tripwire.

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