Petition to stop FM being switched off

"Alan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Why would anyone want to sign something that may prevent us getting
> hundreds of radio stations on DAB?

Well, I already have 4 FM radios as well as one in each of our families
cars.

We don't have a DAB radio.

Is that a good enough reason???


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J B

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kráftéé
<kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> writes
>Jimbo GM4DHJ .... wrote:
>| "DAB sounds worse than FM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>|| There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
>||
>|| http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
>||
>|| Please sign. Thanks.
>||
>||
>| cool thanks ......
>
>Maybe some more bandwidth to play with.......Naah I doubt it (it'll be
>sold to the highest bidder)
>
Who IS going to buy that part of the spectrum? There's not a lot of
activity between (say) 30 and 87MHz at the moment, so I don't think that
there will be as great a demand for the FM radio spectrum as some people
think.
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Ian

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, DAB sounds worse than
FM <(E-Mail Removed)> writes


>
>* DAB uses frequencies of around 200 MHz, whereas FM uses frequencies
>of around 100 MHz - i.e. DAB couldn't be transmitted in the FM band
>anyway
>
Surely there's no technical reason why DAB cannot be transmitted at the
present 'FM' frequencies? It is arguable that propagation and RF
penetration is better than at 200MHz. All you will need is a new radio.
This will be no great hardship as, the way things are going, if they
change DAB to DAB+ I'm going to have to change my DAB/FM radio anyway in
order to receive anything at all.
>
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Ian

(E-Mail Removed) (DAB sounds worse than FM) wrote:

> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
>
> Please sign. Thanks.

Done; thanks for pointing it out. The worst thing for me about DAB is the (much!)
higher power requirements. If they could overcome that hurdle, and also produce a
tiny cheap add-on which would convert all my existing radios to DAB, I'd be ok.

Andrew McP

(E-Mail Removed) (Steve Terry) wrote:

> What's your fecking name, King Canute?

Nobody's said dump DAB and its 'choice', just don't dump the ability to listen to
some radio just about anywhere in the country on a very cheap device which has long
battery life.

Andrew McP

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVET
(E-Mail Removed)> scribeth thus
>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kráftéé
><kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> writes
>>Jimbo GM4DHJ .... wrote:
>>| "DAB sounds worse than FM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>|| There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
>>||
>>|| http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
>>||
>>|| Please sign. Thanks.
>>||
>>||
>>| cool thanks ......
>>
>>Maybe some more bandwidth to play with.......Naah I doubt it (it'll be
>>sold to the highest bidder)
>>
>Who IS going to buy that part of the spectrum? There's not a lot of
>activity between (say) 30 and 87MHz at the moment, so I don't think that
>there will be as great a demand for the FM radio spectrum as some people
>think.

There are tracts of spectrum from around 30 to 87 MHz that are hardly
used as no one wants them;!...
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Tony Sayer

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Dave Plowman (News)
<(E-Mail Removed)> scribeth thus
>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Eeyore <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Besides, DAB is inferior. Good FM beats it hands down.
>
>I'm surprised at that statement from you, Graham. DAB at a decent bitrate
>knocks FM into touch. Of course if you want to compare 'good' FM to poor
>bitrate DAB to make a point, so be it.
>

DAB at a decent bitrate eh;?. And what's wrong with Mono to ;?..
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Tony Sayer

In article <h1ua5g$kk3$(E-Mail Removed)>, Steve Terry
<(E-Mail Removed)> scribeth thus
>
>"DAB sounds worse than FM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
>> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
>> Please sign. Thanks.
>>
>>
>What's your fecking name, King Canute?
>
>the future is DRM, good job too
>
>Steve Terry
>
>

Theres one who doesn't have much to do with the radio industry;!..
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Tony Sayer

> You can often get adaptor plates to allow a 'standard' size radio to be
> fitted. Plenty want to upgrade the unit fitted as standard. Or use a DAB
> to FM convertor - just like plugging a FreeView box into the TV aerial
> input.

Perhaps we all need to get into the "retro fit radios" business. I have 5
perfectly good FM/AM radios, none of which could be retrofitted for DAB.

And why would I want to purchase something that only works in the UK? From
my kitchen, most DAB reception is simply too bad to listen to but I can
happily get the same stations on FM. Also, my DAB radio uses significantly
more power that my old FM/AM sets.

Paul DS

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony sayer
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVET
>(E-Mail Removed)> scribeth thus
>>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kráftéé
>><kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> writes
>>>Jimbo GM4DHJ .... wrote:
>>>| "DAB sounds worse than FM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>|| There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
>>>||
>>>|| http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
>>>||
>>>|| Please sign. Thanks.
>>>||
>>>||
>>>| cool thanks ......
>>>
>>>Maybe some more bandwidth to play with.......Naah I doubt it (it'll be
>>>sold to the highest bidder)
>>>
>>Who IS going to buy that part of the spectrum? There's not a lot of
>>activity between (say) 30 and 87MHz at the moment, so I don't think that
>>there will be as great a demand for the FM radio spectrum as some people
>>think.
>
>There are tracts of spectrum from around 30 to 87 MHz that are hardly
>used as no one wants them;!...

Offhand, I'm not sure what one might expect to find. Old FM cordless
phones 30 to 33MHz. IF region 33 to 40MHz 'protected'. Some radio
control around 49MHz (?), plus old toy walkie talkies and baby alarms.
Amateur 50 to 52MHz. There used to be a blind landing system on 75MHz.
Some council, gas and electricity board stuff around 80Mhz? OK, all of
the spectrum will be allocated, but the actual usage is very low.

Of course, one of the problems with these relatively low frequencies is
the size of the aerial, especially for handheld portable use (even if
loading is used). And, there's also a severe problem with sporadic-E
interference - especially around this time of year. It is not without
good reason that, some time ago, Band 1 was abandoned for TV
transmissions in many European countries.
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Ian