" PC's, 2 NIC's, 1 Xover HELP PLEASE!

Hi all,
leapt into this a bit gung ho this afternoon. NIC's installed and
working correctly, cross over cat 5 cable connected.

Now, Win98 on one pc and WinME on the other. Is there a handy site to run
down the basic settings? I've got visible shared folders (ie their own) on
each PC, but not visible across the network.
What protocols etc do I need enabled. The wizard looks like it should be
helping but doesn't actually....

Just a pointer to some info please, then I'll check it all
systematically...


Les



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"Les & Claire" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bi0aef$3v2gr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
> leapt into this a bit gung ho this afternoon. NIC's installed
and
> working correctly, cross over cat 5 cable connected.
>
> Now, Win98 on one pc and WinME on the other. Is there a handy site to run
> down the basic settings? I've got visible shared folders (ie their own) on
> each PC, but not visible across the network.
> What protocols etc do I need enabled. The wizard looks like it should be
> helping but doesn't actually....
>
> Just a pointer to some info please, then I'll check it all
> systematically...
>
>
> Les
>
>

http://www.homenethelp.com/ got me connected in your situation. Installing
NetBEUI protocol & making sure you have the same protocols installed on both
machines may get you some results.

Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks like ICS isn't
available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At the moment, I
can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to the helpfiles!

Thanks again...

Les




--
Top Posting© Since 1997

"Oh Bother!" said the Borg, "We've assimilated Pooh!"

"That's 10 times I've explained binary to you. I won't tell you a 3rd time!"



"Les & Claire" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bi0aef$3v2gr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
> leapt into this a bit gung ho this afternoon. NIC's installed
and
> working correctly, cross over cat 5 cable connected.
>
> Now, Win98 on one pc and WinME on the other. Is there a handy site to run
> down the basic settings? I've got visible shared folders (ie their own) on
> each PC, but not visible across the network.
> What protocols etc do I need enabled. The wizard looks like it should be
> helping but doesn't actually....
>
> Just a pointer to some info please, then I'll check it all
> systematically...
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> --
> Top Posting© Since 1997
>
> "Oh Bother!" said the Borg, "We've assimilated Pooh!"
>
> "That's 10 times I've explained binary to you. I won't tell you a 3rd
time!"
>
>
>
>
>

ICS is available in win98SE upwards. If you have Win98 Original, like me,
you should upgrade.

Details for installing ICS under win98SE:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_98

"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> In article <bi0sik$445e1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks like ICS
isn't
> > available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At the
moment, I
> > can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to the
helpfiles!
> >
> Something like WinGate or WinRoute is probably a better solution than
> Windows ICS anyway, as it gives you a reasonable integrated firewall
> which is a "good thing".

Never needed anything but ZoneAlarm in the four years I've been on
Broadband. I know people despise it, particularly the free version, but I
love it. Coupled with PC Cillin that came free with my mobo, I've not had a
cause for complaint.

In article <bi135a$ktp$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > In article <bi0sik$445e1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks like ICS
> isn't
> > > available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At the
> moment, I
> > > can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to the
> helpfiles!
> > >
> > Something like WinGate or WinRoute is probably a better solution than
> > Windows ICS anyway, as it gives you a reasonable integrated firewall
> > which is a "good thing".
>
> Never needed anything but ZoneAlarm in the four years I've been on
> Broadband. I know people despise it, particularly the free version, but I
> love it. Coupled with PC Cillin that came free with my mobo, I've not had a
> cause for complaint.
>
ZA has apparently caused problems for some people in some situations -
personally I didn't like the dumbed-down interface and lack of explicit
configuration options, but I've not used it for a long time so maybe
they've improved it?

"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> In article <bi135a$ktp$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >
> > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > In article <bi0sik$445e1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > > Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks like
ICS
> > isn't
> > > > available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At the
> > moment, I
> > > > can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to the
> > helpfiles!
> > > >
> > > Something like WinGate or WinRoute is probably a better solution than
> > > Windows ICS anyway, as it gives you a reasonable integrated firewall
> > > which is a "good thing".
> >
> > Never needed anything but ZoneAlarm in the four years I've been on
> > Broadband. I know people despise it, particularly the free version, but
I
> > love it. Coupled with PC Cillin that came free with my mobo, I've not
had a
> > cause for complaint.
> >
> ZA has apparently caused problems for some people in some situations -
> personally I didn't like the dumbed-down interface and lack of explicit
> configuration options, but I've not used it for a long time so maybe
> they've improved it?

Nope, no improvement on the interface front. There are a few more options,
but nothing amazing. I admit I'm an amateur when it comes to Firewalls and
quite possibly the two you mention would be perfect for someone more
knowledgable. ZA runs virtually invisibly on my system and offers all the
protection I ask of it, so my novice needs are met.

I did actually cancel my previous post when I realised I don't really have
enough knowledge to get into a debate on firewalls!

"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> In article <bi180o$og5$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >
> > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > In article <bi135a$ktp$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > >
> > > > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > > > In article <bi0sik$445e1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > > > > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > > > > Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks
like
> > ICS
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At
the
> > > > moment, I
> > > > > > can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to
the
> > > > helpfiles!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Something like WinGate or WinRoute is probably a better solution
than
> > > > > Windows ICS anyway, as it gives you a reasonable integrated
firewall
> > > > > which is a "good thing".
> > > >
> > > > Never needed anything but ZoneAlarm in the four years I've been on
> > > > Broadband. I know people despise it, particularly the free version,
but
> > I
> > > > love it. Coupled with PC Cillin that came free with my mobo, I've
not
> > had a
> > > > cause for complaint.
> > > >
> > > ZA has apparently caused problems for some people in some situations -
> > > personally I didn't like the dumbed-down interface and lack of
explicit
> > > configuration options, but I've not used it for a long time so maybe
> > > they've improved it?
> >
> > Nope, no improvement on the interface front. There are a few more
options,
> > but nothing amazing. I admit I'm an amateur when it comes to Firewalls
and
> > quite possibly the two you mention would be perfect for someone more
> > knowledgable. ZA runs virtually invisibly on my system and offers all
the
> > protection I ask of it, so my novice needs are met.
> >
> > I did actually cancel my previous post when I realised I don't really
have
> > enough knowledge to get into a debate on firewalls!
> >
> Discussion, not debate :-) If your choice works for you, and you're
> happy with it, then there's no reason to change - it's just that there
> are some excellent solutions available at low or no cost that people
> don't seem to be generally aware of, and some of the stuff that you hear
> about all the time seems to either cost quite a lot, not work very well
> or cause other problems (not mentioning anything by Microsoft, Norton or
> Zone Labs of course :-) Apparently PC-cillin is rather better than it
> used to be.

It is actually. For a free v-checker it's remarkably robust, again running
unnoticed. It's thanks to PCC that I'm Klez & SoBig-free.

Very happy with the Sophos and ZoneAlarm solution. Every time I've been to
one of those "How Stealthy is your PC" test sites it's turned out to be
invisible. It's enough for me!

Les


--
Top Posting© Since 1997

"Oh Bother!" said the Borg, "We've assimilated Pooh!"

"That's 10 times I've explained binary to you. I won't tell you a 3rd time!"



"Real nwsy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bi32pc$4fq$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > In article <bi180o$og5$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > >
> > > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > > In article <bi135a$ktp$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > > > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > > > > In article <bi0sik$445e1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > > > > > (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > > > > > Thanks for the help... got them file sharing now. But looks
> like
> > > ICS
> > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > available in Win98, will upgrade to WinME on the second pc. At
> the
> > > > > moment, I
> > > > > > > can not seem to get ICS working even with Wingate... back to
> the
> > > > > helpfiles!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Something like WinGate or WinRoute is probably a better solution
> than
> > > > > > Windows ICS anyway, as it gives you a reasonable integrated
> firewall
> > > > > > which is a "good thing".
> > > > >
> > > > > Never needed anything but ZoneAlarm in the four years I've been on
> > > > > Broadband. I know people despise it, particularly the free
version,
> but
> > > I
> > > > > love it. Coupled with PC Cillin that came free with my mobo, I've
> not
> > > had a
> > > > > cause for complaint.
> > > > >
> > > > ZA has apparently caused problems for some people in some
situations -
> > > > personally I didn't like the dumbed-down interface and lack of
> explicit
> > > > configuration options, but I've not used it for a long time so maybe
> > > > they've improved it?
> > >
> > > Nope, no improvement on the interface front. There are a few more
> options,
> > > but nothing amazing. I admit I'm an amateur when it comes to Firewalls
> and
> > > quite possibly the two you mention would be perfect for someone more
> > > knowledgable. ZA runs virtually invisibly on my system and offers all
> the
> > > protection I ask of it, so my novice needs are met.
> > >
> > > I did actually cancel my previous post when I realised I don't really
> have
> > > enough knowledge to get into a debate on firewalls!
> > >
> > Discussion, not debate :-) If your choice works for you, and you're
> > happy with it, then there's no reason to change - it's just that there
> > are some excellent solutions available at low or no cost that people
> > don't seem to be generally aware of, and some of the stuff that you hear
> > about all the time seems to either cost quite a lot, not work very well
> > or cause other problems (not mentioning anything by Microsoft, Norton or
> > Zone Labs of course :-) Apparently PC-cillin is rather better than it
> > used to be.
>
> It is actually. For a free v-checker it's remarkably robust, again running
> unnoticed. It's thanks to PCC that I'm Klez & SoBig-free.
>
>