Paying same for less connection speed

Hi, probably been asked before, but why am I paying the same amount
for a 1MB connection (I`m at the furthest distance from from the
exchange) as someone paying the same amount for an 8MB connection
(they`re nearer the exchange)??? Does`nt seem fair or logical to me.
Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
run (ran out of copper!) when they built our estate some 25 years
ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...?? Is there
anything that can be done?? Yes ....I am aware this is BT`s
infrastructure..say no more!!

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> Hi, probably been asked before, but why am I paying the same amount
> for a 1MB connection (I`m at the furthest distance from from the
> exchange) as someone paying the same amount for an 8MB connection
> (they`re nearer the exchange)???

Because it costs the provider the same amount of money in either case.

Your lower speed doesn't mean you'll creates less traffic, so you can't even
claim that you're costing them any less on that account. That's it really !

Graham

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> Hi, probably been asked before, but why am I paying the same amount
> for a 1MB connection (I`m at the furthest distance from from the
> exchange) as someone paying the same amount for an 8MB connection
> (they`re nearer the exchange)??? Does`nt seem fair or logical to me.
> Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
> run (ran out of copper!) when they built our estate some 25 years
> ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...?? Is there
> anything that can be done?? Yes ....I am aware this is BT`s
> infrastructure..say no more!!

Wouldn't it be worth looking for an ISP that provides lower speeds, and
charging less than what you're payin now for an up to 8MB?

On 26-Sep-2007, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Hi, probably been asked before, but why am I paying the same amount
> for a 1MB connection (I`m at the furthest distance from from the
> exchange) as someone paying the same amount for an 8MB connection
> (they`re nearer the exchange)???

The speed you get is related to your distance from the exchange,
as you have found. But theoretically you could be a P2P addict,
or streaming radio fan, leaving it running most of the day, generating
a lot of traffic.
You could try a modem that can be flashed with long line software,
mine can, though I don't need to.
Or find a cheaper provider.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
> run (ran out of copper!)

No. They didn't run out of copper per se. Copper simply became very expensive at
the time so they tried aluminium for a while. They've regretted it ever since.

> when they built our estate some 25 years
> ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...??

It seems to at least when it's corroded.

> Is there anything that can be done??

The only thing that can be done is to replace it.

Graham

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
>> run (ran out of copper!)
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> No. They didn't run out of copper per se. Copper simply became very
> expensive at
> the time so they tried aluminium for a while. They've regretted it ever
> since.
>
>> when they built our estate some 25 years
>> ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...??
>
> It seems to at least when it's corroded.
>
>> Is there anything that can be done??
>
> The only thing that can be done is to replace it.
>
> Graham

All of the above agreed.
And they won't (replace the aluminium with copper, that is) while it's still
working reasonably OK for voice transmission and/or they have your area
programmed in for a local network uplift.

George

On 26 Sep, 17:24, "George Weston" <geowes...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > boovee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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> >> Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
> >> run (ran out of copper!)
>
> > No. They didn't run out of copper per se. Copper simply became very
> > expensive at
> > the time so they tried aluminium for a while. They've regretted it ever
> > since.
>
> >> when they built our estate some 25 years
> >> ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...??
>
> > It seems to at least when it's corroded.
>
> >> Is there anything that can be done??
>
> > The only thing that can be done is to replace it.
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> > Graham
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> All of the above agreed.
> And they won't (replace the aluminium with copper, that is) while it's still
> working reasonably OK for voice transmission and/or they have your area
> programmed in for a local network uplift.
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Thanks for the replies:

Here`s the officilal line from BT ( alot of of it "automated" !):

""Thank you for your e-mail dated 26th September 2007, your e-mail has
been logged under the reference number xxxxxxxxxx.

I was sorry to learn of your concern over the broadband speed which is
slow. You are not satisfied as you pay the same as someone near to the
exchange pays. You wish to confirm how long it will take to get full
speed.

I have run a speed check on your line and found that your line is
capable of supporting 1.5Mbps broadband speed. You can check the same
by visiting the following website:

http://tinyurl.com/k28zf

Please note that the charge you pay depends on the package you prefer
but not with the speed. Where ever you are and what ever speed you
get, your charge will be of the package you purchase. I would
appreciate your patience and understanding in this regard.

The download speeds you get on your line will vary depending on the
volume of traffic being carried at the time you are logged on. If a
large number of people are sharing the available bandwidth with you,
the contention ratio (or ratio to which the available bandwidth is
shared between users) is higher and your connection will be slower.
Less traffic means lower contention ratios and faster network speeds.

The actual speed that you would receive at your premises depends on
the following factors also:

1. The distance of your premises from the nearest exchange.
2. The quality and the length of the line.
3. The internal wiring at the premises.
4. The number of connection available from the exchange.

BT is working on all the exchanges to support high broadband speed as
soon as possible. Once it's been done, you will be informed about it.

For further clarification, please contact your ISP (Internet Service
Provider) as they will be in a better position to assist you further.

Thank you for contacting BT Total Broadband.


BT Total Broadband Support Team.

On Sep 26, 7:20 pm, boovee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 26 Sep, 17:24, "George Weston" <geowes...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
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> > > boovee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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> > >> Also, I`ve told that BT laid aluminium lines for the last part of the
> > >> run (ran out of copper!)
>
> > > No. They didn't run out of copper per se. Copper simply became very
> > > expensive at
> > > the time so they tried aluminium for a while. They've regretted it ever
> > > since.
>
> > >> when they built our estate some 25 years
> > >> ago!! Does this affect the quality of signal etc...??
>
> > > It seems to at least when it's corroded.
>
> > >> Is there anything that can be done??
>
> > > The only thing that can be done is to replace it.
>
> > > Graham
>
> > All of the above agreed.
> > And they won't (replace the aluminium with copper, that is) while it's still
> > working reasonably OK for voice transmission and/or they have your area
> > programmed in for a local network uplift.
>
> > George- Hide quoted text -
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> Thanks for the replies:
>
> Here`s the officilal line from BT ( alot of of it "automated" !):
>
> ""Thank you for your e-mail dated 26th September 2007, your e-mail has
> been logged under the reference number xxxxxxxxxx.
>
> I was sorry to learn of your concern over the broadband speed which is
> slow. You are not satisfied as you pay the same as someone near to the
> exchange pays. You wish to confirm how long it will take to get full
> speed.
>
> I have run a speed check on your line and found that your line is
> capable of supporting 1.5Mbps broadband speed. You can check the same
> by visiting the following website:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/k28zf
>
> Please note that the charge you pay depends on the package you prefer
> but not with the speed. Where ever you are and what ever speed you
> get, your charge will be of the package you purchase. I would
> appreciate your patience and understanding in this regard.
>
> The download speeds you get on your line will vary depending on the
> volume of traffic being carried at the time you are logged on. If a
> large number of people are sharing the available bandwidth with you,
> the contention ratio (or ratio to which the available bandwidth is
> shared between users) is higher and your connection will be slower.
> Less traffic means lower contention ratios and faster network speeds.
>
> The actual speed that you would receive at your premises depends on
> the following factors also:
>
> 1. The distance of your premises from the nearest exchange.
> 2. The quality and the length of the line.
> 3. The internal wiring at the premises.
> 4. The number of connection available from the exchange.
>
> BT is working on all the exchanges to support high broadband speed as
> soon as possible. Once it's been done, you will be informed about it.
>
> For further clarification, please contact your ISP (Internet Service
> Provider) as they will be in a better position to assist you further.
>
> Thank you for contacting BT Total Broadband.
>
> BT Total Broadband Support Team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, is it able to buy just a 2MB connection package? I`ve had a
quick look and all provide "...up to 8MB..." or more.
So in answer to a thread here, where do I find such packages..my ISP
certainly doesn`t offer them. Tuff luck is the repy I get!!

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Also, is it able to buy just a 2MB connection package? I`ve had a
> quick look and all provide "...up to 8MB..." or more.

Short answer is yes, but it will likely be at the same cost. It costs
most ISPs the same to give you a 2Mbps connection as a MAX connection.

Of course you are probably out of limits for 2Mbps so would be looking
at 1Mbps or 512kbps fixed rate.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hi, probably been asked before, but why am I paying the same amount
> for a 1MB connection (I`m at the furthest distance from from the
> exchange) as someone paying the same amount for an 8MB connection
> (they`re nearer the exchange)??? Does`nt seem fair or logical to me.

You are not paying for a "1Mbps connection" or an "8Mbps connection",
probably just a MAX connection - you get whatever your line will
support. Cost to the ISP is effectively per line at the exchange, not a
direct product of what speed you are able to get.