Password

What is the point of the logon in win98 to the network if
anyone can change it at any time.

In article <174b901c4181b$49ac78c0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jason B"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>What is the point of the logon in win98 to the network if
>anyone can change it at any time.

You have to log onto the network in order to access other computers
over the network. That logon can be done automatically, so that you
don't see a prompt.

In a workgroup, you can log on with any user name and password. If
you try to access a computer running Windows 2000 Professional, or a
computer running Windows XP Professional that has "simple file
sharing" disabled, Win98 sends that user name and password to them.
Windows 2000 and XP use that information to decide whether to allow or
disallow the requested access.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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if you don't log on , you don't have access...

you cannot change the password unless you know the old one



"Jason B" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:174b901c4181b$49ac78c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> What is the point of the logon in win98 to the network if
> anyone can change it at any time.

how can you setup the network to only aloue access to the
right logon name and password? At this pount anyone can
logon to my win89 PC ether by hitting cancel or making up
a new password
>-----Original Message-----
>In article <174b901c4181b$49ac78c0
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jason B"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>What is the point of the logon in win98 to the network
if
>>anyone can change it at any time.
>
>You have to log onto the network in order to access other
computers
>over the network. That logon can be done automatically,
so that you
>don't see a prompt.
>
>In a workgroup, you can log on with any user name and
password. If
>you try to access a computer running Windows 2000
Professional, or a
>computer running Windows XP Professional that has "simple
file
>sharing" disabled, Win98 sends that user name and
password to them.
>Windows 2000 and XP use that information to decide
whether to allow or
>disallow the requested access.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

How can you set this up, and only give access to
somethings to some logon Names and Passwords and diffent
things to others?
>-----Original Message-----
>In article <174b901c4181b$49ac78c0
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jason B"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>What is the point of the logon in win98 to the network
if
>>anyone can change it at any time.
>
>You have to log onto the network in order to access other
computers
>over the network. That logon can be done automatically,
so that you
>don't see a prompt.
>
>In a workgroup, you can log on with any user name and
password. If
>you try to access a computer running Windows 2000
Professional, or a
>computer running Windows XP Professional that has "simple
file
>sharing" disabled, Win98 sends that user name and
password to them.
>Windows 2000 and XP use that information to decide
whether to allow or
>disallow the requested access.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

In article <1793c01c41915$7d887900$(E-Mail Removed)>, "jasonb"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>how can you setup the network to only aloue access to the
>right logon name and password? At this pount anyone can
>logon to my win89 PC ether by hitting cancel or making up
>a new password

Windows 98 wasn't designed for that type of security, Jason.
Microsoft assumed, rightly or not, that it's used in a home
environment where everyone is trusted.

If you want to keep un-authorized users off your computer, set up a
BIOS password that has to be entered to boot the computer.

Here are possible ways to prevent users from bypassing the Windows
logon. However, it's not hard to get around these, and information on
how to do it is freely available on the web:

1. When the logon is canceled, Windows actually logs the user on as
the "default" user. You can configure the default user to be
immediately logged off, causing the logon prompt to return:

http://registry.winguides.com/display.php?629

2. Doug Knox has developed a procedure that requires a valid logon:

http://www.dougknox.com

Click "Security" and then click "Prevent Unauthorized Users from
accessing your computer". Be sure to follow the steps exactly as
documented.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm