OT:: Is this political or linguistic?

Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
"the one with light"?

Hmmmmm.....

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>"the one with light"?

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Illuminati = illuminated
Lucifer = illuminator

--
John Fields

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>"the one with light"?
>
>Hmmmmm.....


Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
design! Excellent progress.

John

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:09:27 -0800, John Larkin
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>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>>"the one with light"?
>>
>>Hmmmmm.....
>
>
>Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
>design! Excellent progress.
>
>John

Maybe one of Rich's "personalities" (I call them schizophrenic
versions will get back on track.

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:09:27 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>>"the one with light"?
>>
>>Hmmmmm.....
>
>
> Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
> design! Excellent progress.
>

Not surprising, since your sample for comparison is zero.

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:12:06 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:09:27 -0800, John Larkin
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>>>"the one with light"?
>>>
>>>Hmmmmm.....
>>
>>
>>Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
>>design! Excellent progress.
>>
>>John
>
> Maybe one of Rich's "personalities" (I call them schizophrenic
> versions will get back on track.
>

Oh, I'm still OK[0] - Since I've learned how to supervise the kids, I can
let them come out and play without anybody getting seriously killed. ;-)
(and I found out how trivially easy it is to make a new monicker in Pan)

It also seems to reduce my perceived risk of experiencing SHC. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

[0] Well, as close to "OK" as I've ever been....

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:12:06 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:09:27 -0800, John Larkin
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:02:30 GMT, Rhett Oracle
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>>>"the one with light"?
>>>
>>>Hmmmmm.....
>>
>>
>>Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
>>design! Excellent progress.
>>
>>John
>
> Maybe one of Rich's "personalities" (I call them schizophrenic
> versions will get back on track.
>

It took me a very long time to realize this, and I'm still not convinced
that it's true, but I'm honestly baffled by the concept that there are
people who are even capable of thinking only one thing at a time, or maybe
even nothing. I can't do that. I give thanks every day that somebody
injected enough sanity into my brain that I've been able to know better
than to do really really stupid dangerous stuff, for the most part. It's
also my major excuse for major alcohol and drug use - I can't get them all
to just SHUT UP! I think schizophrenia is only a problem if you lose track
of which is real reality and which personality should be driving the bus.

So you guys end up the victims of my big blather/pig bladder. - see? I
just can't stop it, and self-restraint is such a bore. ;-)

Forgive them, for they know not what they do. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

Rhett Oracle wrote:

> Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
> "the one with light"?
>
> Hmmmmm.....

Or that one of the titles of JC is 'Morning Star' who is none other than Venus,
aka Lucifer?

--
Dirk

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http://www.theconsensus.org

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Rhett Oracle wrote:
> > Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
> > "the one with light"?
> > Hmmmmm.....
> Or that one of the titles of JC is 'Morning Star' who is none other > than
Venus, aka Lucifer?
> Dirk

What? No way!

Venus is the goddess of love and beauty, only in the corrupt view of Christian
revisionism could you equate that to Lucifer "The Regent of Earth." No way to
confuse "Sol Invictus" for "Christ" (the Anointed) except by confusing people
with false claims.

From what I can tell, Lucifer is the ancient Greek name of Venus the Morning
Star, but I know nothing about the history of when it was first used in
translations of the Bible to refer to Satan. It seems that the Greeks were
using Lucifer, together with Persephone, to identify Venus long before the name
was used to represent Satan.


From
http://theosophy.org/tlodocs/hpb/HistoryOfAPlanet.htm

The History of a Planet
----------------------------------------------------------
No star, among the countless myriads that twinkle over the sidereal fields
of the night sky, shines so dazzlingly as the planet Venus not even
Sirius-Sothis, the dog-star, beloved by Isis. Venus is the queen among our
planets, the crown jewel of our solar system. She is the inspirer of the poet,
the guardian and companion of the lonely shepherd, the lovely morning and the
evening star. For,

Stars teach as well as shine,"

Clarence wrote:

> "Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Rhett Oracle wrote:
>>
>>>Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
>>>"the one with light"?
>>>Hmmmmm.....
>>
>>Or that one of the titles of JC is 'Morning Star' who is none other > than
>
> Venus, aka Lucifer?
>
>>Dirk
>
>
> What? No way!
>
> Venus is the goddess of love and beauty, only in the corrupt view of Christian
> revisionism could you equate that to Lucifer "The Regent of Earth." No way to
> confuse "Sol Invictus" for "Christ" (the Anointed) except by confusing people
> with false claims.
>
> From what I can tell, Lucifer is the ancient Greek name of Venus the Morning
> Star, but I know nothing about the history of when it was first used in
> translations of the Bible to refer to Satan. It seems that the Greeks were
> using Lucifer, together with Persephone, to identify Venus long before the name
> was used to represent Satan.
>
>
> From
> http://theosophy.org/tlodocs/hpb/HistoryOfAPlanet.htm
>
> The History of a Planet
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> No star, among the countless myriads that twinkle over the sidereal fields
> of the night sky, shines so dazzlingly as the planet Venus not even
> Sirius-Sothis, the dog-star, beloved by Isis. Venus is the queen among our
> planets, the crown jewel of our solar system. She is the inspirer of the poet,
> the guardian and companion of the lonely shepherd, the lovely morning and the
> evening star. For,
>
> Stars teach as well as shine,"

It's not as simple as that given the trouble YHVH had with the Goddess(es) of
the region who equate to Venus-Aphrodite.
For example, the titles of Mary and her iconic representation is that of
Isis/Astarte etc. They transferred smotthly and almost in totality.

Which makes JC's mother... the Goddess and major opponent of YHVH.

This in turn strengthens the case for Lucifer and JC being (at least) close
relatives if not identical. Which one might expect mythologically speaking as JC
was executed by the most devoted subjects of YHVH.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org