OT: Need help with wireless configuration

Hi,

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
wirelessly to the internet.
I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
the web to work, IE or Firfox.

Any ideas why ping might work but http not?

This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.

Thanks for any ideas

zeebop

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:37:18 +0000, zeebop writ:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
> wirelessly to the internet.
> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>
> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>
> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>
> Thanks for any ideas
>
> zeebop

Put 64.233.187.99 into your browser's address bar and see if Google comes
up- if it does, it's probably a DNS issue.

If it doesn't, it might be a firewall issue on the laptop, or else your
router is blocking web access to that machine somehow. Also make sure the
laptop is connecting to your own router and not a neighbor's. Good luck.

--
"Because all you of Earth are idiots!"
¯`·..·¯`·-> freemont© <-·¯`·..·¯

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:32:43 -0500, freemont wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:37:18 +0000, zeebop write
>> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
>> wirelessly to the internet.
>> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
>> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>>
>> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>>
>> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
>> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas
>>
>> zeebop
>
> Put 64.233.187.99 into your browser's address bar and see if Google comes
> up- if it does, it's probably a DNS issue.

Likely not a DNS issues, since poster said they can ping google, etc. as
opposed to ip numerical address, i.e. DNS is working.


> If it doesn't, it might be a firewall issue on the laptop, or else your
> router is blocking web access to that machine somehow. Also make sure the
> laptop is connecting to your own router and not a neighbor's. Good luck.

Most likely. Poster should go into router with a browser (192.168.1.1 for
Linksys, I think it is 192.168.1.0 for Netgear), check wireless settings,
especially for whether ssid is broadcast, if WEP/WPA is turned and and if
so what is the key for access, is MAC filtering security turned on and if
so add laptop MAC wifi address to the list in the router.

Also can laptop connect to other wifi out and about at cafes? If so,
laptop firewall is not restricting wifi surfing, it is at the level of the
router.

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:33:54 -0600, Beowulf wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:32:43 -0500, freemont wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:37:18 +0000, zeebop write
>>> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
>>> wirelessly to the internet.
>>> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
>>> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>>>
>>> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>>>
>>> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
>>> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas
>>>
>>> zeebop
>>
>> Put 64.233.187.99 into your browser's address bar and see if Google comes
>> up- if it does, it's probably a DNS issue.
>
> Likely not a DNS issues, since poster said they can ping google, etc. as
> opposed to ip numerical address, i.e. DNS is working.
>
>
>> If it doesn't, it might be a firewall issue on the laptop, or else your
>> router is blocking web access to that machine somehow. Also make sure the
>> laptop is connecting to your own router and not a neighbor's. Good luck.
>
> Most likely. Poster should go into router with a browser (192.168.1.1 for
> Linksys, I think it is 192.168.1.0 for Netgear), check wireless settings,
> especially for whether ssid is broadcast, if WEP/WPA is turned and and if
> so what is the key for access, is MAC filtering security turned on and if
> so add laptop MAC wifi address to the list in the router.


oh duh, never mind about ssid, wep, mac; poster said they can ping so they
have wifi, just not http. well i just got up, 6:40am, yet to get coffee,
sorry. Maybe check port 80 on router for availability to the laptop LAN
connection (port 80 is for http, i.e. browsing), also any software
firewall on both systems.


--
If you have walked all these days with closed ears and
mind asleep, wake up now! -- Gandalf

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:37:46 -0600, Beowulf writ:

> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:33:54 -0600, Beowulf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:32:43 -0500, freemont wrote:
>>>
>>> Put 64.233.187.99 into your browser's address bar and see if Google
>>> comes up- if it does, it's probably a DNS issue.
>>
>> Likely not a DNS issues, since poster said they can ping google, etc.
>> as opposed to ip numerical address, i.e. DNS is working.
>>
>>
>>> If it doesn't, it might be a firewall issue on the laptop, or else
>>> your router is blocking web access to that machine somehow. Also make
>>> sure the laptop is connecting to your own router and not a neighbor's.
>>> Good luck.
>>
>> Most likely. Poster should go into router with a browser (192.168.1.1
>> for Linksys, I think it is 192.168.1.0 for Netgear), check wireless
>> settings, especially for whether ssid is broadcast, if WEP/WPA is
>> turned and and if so what is the key for access, is MAC filtering
>> security turned on and if so add laptop MAC wifi address to the list in
>> the router.
>
>
> oh duh, never mind about ssid, wep, mac; poster said they can ping so
> they have wifi, just not http. well i just got up, 6:40am, yet to get
> coffee, sorry. Maybe check port 80 on router for availability to the
> laptop LAN connection (port 80 is for http, i.e. browsing), also any
> software firewall on both systems.
>
>
>
heh, understood. :-) Certainly if the OP is pinging domain names and
they're resolving, then I was mistaken about DNS.

My Spidey sense tells me it's one of two things- either the unit is
actually connecting to the wrong network (and therefore the signal is too
weak to ever pull down a web page), or else a simple uninstall and
reboot/reinstall of the wireless card will resolve it.

--
"Because all you of Earth are idiots!"
¯`·..·¯`·-> freemont© <-·¯`·..·¯

zeebop wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
> wirelessly to the internet.
> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>
> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>
> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>
> Thanks for any ideas
>
> zeebop

Any web proxy settings enabled on the laptop?
Is a firewall installed which might have blocked the outgoing http service?

--
Nigel Wade

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:49:43 -0500, freemont wrote:
> My Spidey sense tells me it's one of two things- either the unit is
> actually connecting to the wrong network (and therefore the signal is too
> weak to ever pull down a web page), or else a simple uninstall and
> reboot/reinstall of the wireless card will resolve it.

I am a linux geek, so if the OP was using linux I could be of more help
since console commands can provide detailed output (e.g. use of 'iwconfig'
command, etc); but I suspect OP (zeebop) is using WindowsXP.

Sometimes there can be problems with IPv6 issues in not getting browser
connection, that could be something to consider; google for "ipv6 unable
to browse web" to see this issue.

--
If you have walked all these days with closed ears and
mind asleep, wake up now! -- Gandalf

zeebop wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
> wirelessly to the internet.
> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>
> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>
> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>
> Thanks for any ideas
>
> zeebop

Probably a lose wire somewhere, maybe the ethernet cable.

Tri

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:33:54 -0600, Beowulf
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:32:43 -0500, freemont wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:37:18 +0000, zeebop write
>>> I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and am having trouble connecting
>>> wirelessly to the internet.
>>> I can successfully ping websites eg, microsoft.com but I cannot get
>>> the web to work, IE or Firfox.
>>>
>>> Any ideas why ping might work but http not?
>>>
>>> This is running through an ADSL router with 2 other wired connections
>>> and 1 wireless. All of these other machines work fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas
>>>
>>> zeebop
>>
>> Put 64.233.187.99 into your browser's address bar and see if Google comes
>> up- if it does, it's probably a DNS issue.
>
>Likely not a DNS issues, since poster said they can ping google, etc. as
>opposed to ip numerical address, i.e. DNS is working.
>
>
>> If it doesn't, it might be a firewall issue on the laptop, or else your
>> router is blocking web access to that machine somehow. Also make sure the
>> laptop is connecting to your own router and not a neighbor's. Good luck.
>
>Most likely. Poster should go into router with a browser (192.168.1.1 for
>Linksys, I think it is 192.168.1.0 for Netgear), check wireless settings,
>especially for whether ssid is broadcast, if WEP/WPA is turned and and if
>so what is the key for access, is MAC filtering security turned on and if
>so add laptop MAC wifi address to the list in the router.
>
>Also can laptop connect to other wifi out and about at cafes? If so,
>laptop firewall is not restricting wifi surfing, it is at the level of the
>router.

Thanks for all your replies.
A bit more info:
Got it working if I turned router off, then all PC's connecting to it.
Booted back up router then booted wireless PC up.

Doesnt seem completely happy though.
can ping domain names so dont think dns is the issue.
The only thing I can seem to see that might be the problem is that it
sometimes picks up a weird internal ip. Should be 192.168.0.x but
sometime gets (from memory) 62.269.232.xx type address (my external IP
start with 8 something, its Pipex, so I dont know what that 62 ip is
about.
It is set to pick up DNS automatically. Just dont know why its being
allocated incorrectly sometimes. Router displays it as connected ok
with the correct internal ip, but both windows wireless thing and
intel wireless software (although connects to wireless router ok)
sometimes picks up that weird ip.

I dunno. Computers.

On 2007-01-06, zeebop <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Doesnt seem completely happy though.
> can ping domain names so dont think dns is the issue.
> The only thing I can seem to see that might be the problem is that it
> sometimes picks up a weird internal ip. Should be 192.168.0.x but
> sometime gets (from memory) 62.269.232.xx type address (my external IP
> start with 8 something, its Pipex, so I dont know what that 62 ip is
> about.

The IP address, or certainly the .269. bit, isn't correct.

I'm wondering, however, did you get this laptop from work? What
you are describing makes me think you have some sort of VPN running,
and you really need to get that turned off for this to work. Get
rid of any web proxy configuration in your browser as well.

I don't know enough about Windows to tell you any more than this,
however.

Dennis Ferguson