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Motion
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      02-18-2007, 07:19 AM
Just wondering is a UK Individual allowed to use a Personal Domain name for
business use?

I.e. Register the domain for a non-trading individual, but is infact using
it to run a company from?

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Eeyore
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      02-18-2007, 08:00 AM


Motion wrote:

> Just wondering is a UK Individual allowed to use a Personal Domain name for
> business use?


Me.co.uk ?


> I.e. Register the domain for a non-trading individual, but is infact using
> it to run a company from?


If it's used for a company you have to declare the trading address. For personal
use you don't have to disclose your full details.

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Gordon Hudson
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      02-18-2007, 08:57 AM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Motion wrote:
>
>> Just wondering is a UK Individual allowed to use a Personal Domain name
>> for
>> business use?

>
> Me.co.uk ?
>
>
>> I.e. Register the domain for a non-trading individual, but is infact
>> using
>> it to run a company from?

>
> If it's used for a company you have to declare the trading address. For
> personal
> use you don't have to disclose your full details.
>


If it is used for any business purpose then the details have to be made
available.
That includes charities, associations and clubs.
Its only domains used for truly private purposes that can opt out of the
whois.

..me.uk can not be used by a business at all.


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      02-18-2007, 11:48 AM
On Sunday, in article <(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed) "Eeyore" wrote:

> Motion wrote:
>
> > Just wondering is a UK Individual allowed to use a Personal Domain name for
> > business use?

>
> Me.co.uk ?
>
>
> > I.e. Register the domain for a non-trading individual, but is infact using
> > it to run a company from?

>
> If it's used for a company you have to declare the trading address. For personal
> use you don't have to disclose your full details.


It can also look very suspicious if a whois search returns no real-world
address data, or if it uses some sort of postbox. There can be dozens of
unscrupulously legal companies running out of a barbershop back-room in
Nevada.

When I was a farmer I was in a grey area with my Demon account. I had a
contact email address for the farm, but it was never a charge on the
farm accounts, nor was there a web page.

And the taxman might take an interest.


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      02-19-2007, 06:29 AM
"Gordon Hudson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>> Motion wrote:
>>
>>> Just wondering is a UK Individual allowed to use a Personal Domain name
>>> for
>>> business use?

>>
>> Me.co.uk ?
>>
>>
>>> I.e. Register the domain for a non-trading individual, but is infact
>>> using
>>> it to run a company from?

>>
>> If it's used for a company you have to declare the trading address. For
>> personal
>> use you don't have to disclose your full details.
>>

>
> If it is used for any business purpose then the details have to be made
> available.
> That includes charities, associations and clubs.
> Its only domains used for truly private purposes that can opt out of the
> whois.
>
> .me.uk can not be used by a business at all.


The domin I'm on about is:

Brightstaronline.co.uk
Registrant type: UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
Address omitted from the WHOIS service.


 
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      02-19-2007, 06:37 AM
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:29:51 UTC, "Motion"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The domin I'm on about is:
>
> Brightstaronline.co.uk
> Registrant type: UK Individual
>
> Registrant's address:
> The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
> Address omitted from the WHOIS service.


They are definitely not allowed to do that - they are clearly trading
from the website.

A complaint to Nominet normally resolves this very quickly. I have 5
minutes spare, so I've done that!

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      02-19-2007, 06:45 AM
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:48:30 +0000 (GMT), (E-Mail Removed)
("David G. Bell") wrote:

>It can also look very suspicious if a whois search returns no real-world
>address data, or if it uses some sort of postbox. There can be dozens of
>unscrupulously legal companies running out of a barbershop back-room in
>Nevada.
>
>When I was a farmer I was in a grey area with my Demon account. I had a
>contact email address for the farm, but it was never a charge on the
>farm accounts, nor was there a web page.
>
>And the taxman might take an interest.


A quick email to Nominet asking that they populate the whois data
works every time. Simply list the domain and the website and provided
there is an indication of commercial activity then they'll "fill in
the blanks" within a day or so. Email address is
(E-Mail Removed) if anyone is interested.

If it is a .me.uk domain then I believe the domain holder gets warned
as well. If he/she does it again then it _should_ be "Bye Bye domain"
but I suspect Nominet will be reluctant to do that.
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      02-19-2007, 09:27 AM
In message <erbjlr$eug$(E-Mail Removed)>, Motion
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>The domin I'm on about is:
>
>Brightstaronline.co.uk
>Registrant type: UK Individual
>
>Registrant's address:
>The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
>Address omitted from the WHOIS service.


Nevertheless, if you do some DNS look-ups on that domain you will find
that their website appears to be hosted by secureserver.net in the USA.
The domain advertises a single MX server with the domain name of
<brightstaronline.info> which employs the same IP address as the main
domain A record, the second nameserver and the WWW record.

The latter domain name was registered through Godaddy and were you to
look it up via WHOIS, you would find a registered name and address in
Hull which uses the same 0871 telephone numbers as listed on their
website. I can see no point in repeating the registered details on
Usenet; they can be found very easily by those who need to know.

The WHOIS record states that the latter domain was created on 28 January
2007 and, if it means what I think it means, they have only just started
up in business. If that is true, perhaps they can be "cut a little bit
of slack" while they try to get their business off the ground? They may
have simply made a mistake.

I don't know and I am only speculating, but I am suggesting that a
witch-hunt might be OTT in the absence of all of the facts. I am
certainly not suggesting that you have improper motives, rather that
this being Usenet there is a risk that any Tom, Dick or Harry reading it
who has a loose grip on reality, might go looking for trouble for the
sake of it. In other words, if the current lack of details for the
co.uk registration causes you a problem why not 'phone and ask them, or
email them? It should only cost pence, even at 0871 rates. OTOH if it
just makes you wary of doing business with them, then look elsewhere -
it would be their loss.

Just IMHO.

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      02-19-2007, 11:36 AM
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:45:22 UTC, John Naismith <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:48:30 +0000 (GMT), (E-Mail Removed)
> ("David G. Bell") wrote:
>
> >It can also look very suspicious if a whois search returns no real-world
> >address data, or if it uses some sort of postbox. There can be dozens of
> >unscrupulously legal companies running out of a barbershop back-room in
> >Nevada.
> >
> >When I was a farmer I was in a grey area with my Demon account. I had a
> >contact email address for the farm, but it was never a charge on the
> >farm accounts, nor was there a web page.
> >
> >And the taxman might take an interest.

>
> A quick email to Nominet asking that they populate the whois data
> works every time.


Done already, and it worked. They won't do it for the .org.uk version at
present, because that doesn't 'lead' to a trading site.
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      02-19-2007, 12:00 PM
"Bob Eager" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:29:51 UTC, "Motion"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> The domin I'm on about is:
>>
>> Brightstaronline.co.uk
>> Registrant type: UK Individual
>>
>> Registrant's address:
>> The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
>> Address omitted from the WHOIS service.

>
> They are definitely not allowed to do that - they are clearly trading
> from the website.
>
> A complaint to Nominet normally resolves this very quickly. I have 5
> minutes spare, so I've done that!


Let me know what they say.. my email is valid.


 
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