OT : BT Fibre Installations

I know that BT are proposing a nationwide rollout if they get support
from ofcom. But I have recently noticed a lot of BT manholes which are
open and what looks like rolls of Fibre being installed here in
Birmingham. Is there any current project for BT/other ISP installing
fibre.

I says its fibre because its not like the normal black sleeves copper
cables and it is in the common purple and blue colours that are used
for Fibre. I may be wrong but they are installing a lot of something,
does anyone know what it is?

On 22 Jul, 23:36, ato_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >I know that BT are proposing a nationwide rollout if they get support
> > > from ofcom. But I have recently noticed a lot of BT manholes which are
> > > open and what looks like rolls of Fibre being installed here in
> > > Birmingham. Is there any current project for BT/other ISP installing
> > > fibre.
>
> BT does run fibre for corporate clients, you want plenty of bandwidth
> to your financial trading center in Hong Kong, you ask the man from BT.
> Then having got his price, you pick up the phone to C&W.
> You can also have as many phone circuits as you want, plus data,
> over the same circuit with the right multiplexers, allocating bandwidth
> between phones and data up to the purchased, or rather rented,
> bandwidth. So maybe it is not for 21CN.

Where there are banks I could see maybe, but the particular locations
there are lots of retail stores, but stuff like Chip shops and clothes
stores and that sort of retail. No laywers, one bank which looks full
connected with copper pairs.

Why would they put Fibre in for 21CN?

Jim wrote:
> naza wrote:
>> On 22 Jul, 23:36, ato_...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> I know that BT are proposing a nationwide rollout if they get support
>>>>> from ofcom. But I have recently noticed a lot of BT manholes which are
>>>>> open and what looks like rolls of Fibre being installed here in
>>>>> Birmingham. Is there any current project for BT/other ISP installing
>>>>> fibre.
>>> BT does run fibre for corporate clients, you want plenty of bandwidth
>>> to your financial trading center in Hong Kong, you ask the man from BT.
>>> Then having got his price, you pick up the phone to C&W.
>>> You can also have as many phone circuits as you want, plus data,
>>> over the same circuit with the right multiplexers, allocating bandwidth
>>> between phones and data up to the purchased, or rather rented,
>>> bandwidth. So maybe it is not for 21CN.
>>
>> Where there are banks I could see maybe, but the particular locations
>> there are lots of retail stores, but stuff like Chip shops and clothes
>> stores and that sort of retail. No laywers, one bank which looks full
>> connected with copper pairs.
>>
>> Why would they put Fibre in for 21CN?
>
> 2 Mbps digital services like ISDN30 or Megastream2 will be delivered on
> copper up to a certain distance from the exchange. Beyond the limit,
> fibre is required.
>
> ISDN30 is used for medium-to-large sized private telephone exchanges,
> typically 40+extensions. Megastream2 can be used for private networks
> (including, for example, links to Cellular radio sites) or symmetrical
> ISP links.
Indeed.A basic fibre service used to cost arond 3 grand isntall..what
you put over t was up to you.
One of the cheaper ways of getting a leased line was to buy ISDN30, get
fibre installed for free, cancel the ISDN and order a 2Mbps leased line
"have you got fibre installed? You have! well that's easy, sir"


All due to disparate marketing policies on telephone traffic versius
data traffic.

On 23 Jul, 19:01, "John" <x...@y.z> wrote:
> naza wrote:
> > I know that BT are proposing a nationwide rollout if they get support
> > from ofcom. But I have recently noticed a lot of BT manholes which are
> > open and what looks like rolls of Fibre being installed here in
> > Birmingham. Is there any current project for BT/other ISP installing
> > fibre.
>
> > I says its fibre because its not like the normal black sleeves copper
> > cables and it is in the common purple and blue colours that are used
> > for Fibre. I may be wrong but they are installing a lot of something,
> > does anyone know what it is?
>
> Well, first of all, just because you see it in one location doesn't mean
> that it's being used there. They could just be going through those manholes
> and on for miles before reaching the destination. Secondly, unless things
> have changed since I was a cable jointer, there's a certain colour code to
> stick to for underground stuff and IIRC, BT cables are black, water is blue,
> gas is yellow, electricity is red or black and purple or green is for cable
> telly.

Not one location, seen it 3-4 times in the last month. Cables have
been Blue and Purple and the road barriers owned bt BT.

"naza" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I know that BT are proposing a nationwide rollout if they get support
> from ofcom. But I have recently noticed a lot of BT manholes which are
> open and what looks like rolls of Fibre being installed here in
> Birmingham. Is there any current project for BT/other ISP installing
> fibre.
>
> I says its fibre because its not like the normal black sleeves copper
> cables and it is in the common purple and blue colours that are used
> for Fibre. I may be wrong but they are installing a lot of something,
> does anyone know what it is?

I hope they get a professional in. In my street BT has buggered everyones
phones
and internet. Some idiots come along and decided to renew all the cables
from the
poles in the street to the houses. That's great, but they have only renewed
them to
the actual wall and shoved a junction box in each gutter!
Absolute cowboys at BT, no inspections of their shoddy work and BT refuses
to repair what they didn't have to fix in the first place. They joined new
wires to
old when all they had to do was knock and run the wire down to the master
socket. Apart from blocking the gutters they have drilled new fixing points
to some
upvc cladding WITHOUT permission.
No notice was given of this work and no permission given to do it!
I'll get a few shots of the mess BT has left and they are doing it in other
surrounding roads now. A manager at BT said it was work the engineers did
when they were bored and had nothing else to do.
At the moment the whole street is complaining and from neighbours, others
are
also having a go and demanding BT replace the entire cable, not just the bit
that
goes from the pole to the wall !

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:16:13 -0700, naza wrote:

> I says its fibre because its not like the normal black sleeves copper
> cables and it is in the common purple and blue colours that are used for
> Fibre. I may be wrong but they are installing a lot of something, does
> anyone know what it is?

The last two BT fibre installs I've seen [both installed in 2008] were
inside black sheathing up to some box on the wall, then thinner orange
sheathing to the NTE.

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Paul P wrote:

> I hope they get a professional in. In my street BT has buggered everyones
> phones

This poster has a known history of fanciful things happening around his
life. If you do a search on 'Tiscali Idiot' you will soon suspect most
of these events didn't actually happen, and his story looks like someone
plainly throwing stones in a pond to watch the ripples...

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Adrian C

"Paul P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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<snip>
> A manager at BT said it was work the engineers did
> when they were bored and had nothing else to do.

Yeah, right...

George