Orange Outage

The BBC have run this report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6058154.stm

But they have stopped people adding comments on the state of the orange
Broad band outage.

a friend of mine has started a blog called Angry at orange
http://angry-at-orange.blogspot.com/ for anyone else to respond, which
will be submitted to oftel and orange eventually.

Hope people find it useful!

Martin.

"Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The BBC have run this report:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6058154.stm
>
> But they have stopped people adding comments on the state of the orange
> Broad band outage.

All ISPs have outages, get over it.
Even Telehouse has had a couple of outages this year.

> a friend of mine has started a blog called Angry at orange
> http://angry-at-orange.blogspot.com/ for anyone else to respond, which
> will be submitted to oftel and orange eventually.

Buy cheap, get cheap.
Tough shit.

In article <(E-Mail Removed) .com>,
"Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> The BBC have run this report:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6058154.stm

BBC Radio 4 covered the Orange outage on "You and Yours" at
lunchtime today.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Andrew Gabriel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| In article <(E-Mail Removed) .com>,
| "Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
| > The BBC have run this report:
| >
| > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6058154.stm
|
| BBC Radio 4 covered the Orange outage on "You and Yours" at
| lunchtime today.

Oh thank God for the BBC. Is that the broadcaster who can't get the sound right
in the morning or get links to local studios without delay jumps?
Is that the broadcaster who can't get it's morning news staff to read without
tripping over their words?

In fact, I've had six BBC outages this year. I make a note of them when they
happen. 2 Specific to digital, the other 4 general. One just a week ago when
their Isle of White Transmitter went down. Who are they to comment on a free
service from Orange when they can't keep their paid for service working
properly?

Check out www.theregister.com

They have an interesting snippet from an Orange 'insider'.

Apparently, a 'mistake' was made, which necessitated an engineer
visiting each of the 4,000 exchanges to restore normal service!

Regards

Simon Clark
Business Telecoms

Pier Danone wrote:

> In fact, I've had six BBC outages this year. I make a note of them when they
> happen. 2 Specific to digital, the other 4 general. One just a week ago when
> their Isle of White Transmitter went down. Who are they to comment on a free
> service from Orange when they can't keep their paid for service working
> properly?

A week ago ? that was only Monday, the transmitter (Rowridge) is on
the Isle of Wight. National Grid Wireless actually operate the site, as
the Beeb flogged off all their transmitters about 10 years ago. Power
failure, knocked out all four analogue channels, though ITV and C4
bounced back on a lot faster, and radio and DTT was only off for a
minute.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Check out www.theregister.com
>
> They have an interesting snippet from an Orange 'insider'.
>
> Apparently, a 'mistake' was made, which necessitated an engineer
> visiting each of the 4,000 exchanges to restore normal service!

He must have been a busy chap then !

"Mark Carver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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|
| Pier Danone wrote:
|
| > In fact, I've had six BBC outages this year. I make a note of them when they
| > happen. 2 Specific to digital, the other 4 general. One just a week ago when
| > their Isle of White Transmitter went down. Who are they to comment on a free
| > service from Orange when they can't keep their paid for service working
| > properly?
|
| A week ago ? that was only Monday, the transmitter (Rowridge) is on
| the Isle of Wight. National Grid Wireless actually operate the site, as
| the Beeb flogged off all their transmitters about 10 years ago. Power
| failure, knocked out all four analogue channels, though ITV and C4
| bounced back on a lot faster, and radio and DTT was only off for a
| minute.
|

Like an ISP, how the BBC operate their infastructure is not an issue the end
user cares about.
I find it ironic that the BBC can comment on other peoples outages and quality
of service!

Pier Danone wrote:
> "Mark Carver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>
> | A week ago ? that was only Monday, the transmitter (Rowridge) is on
> | the Isle of Wight. National Grid Wireless actually operate the site, as
> | the Beeb flogged off all their transmitters about 10 years ago. Power
> | failure, knocked out all four analogue channels, though ITV and C4
> | bounced back on a lot faster, and radio and DTT was only off for a
> | minute.
> |
>
> Like an ISP, how the BBC operate their infastructure is not an issue the end
> user cares about.

So it's OK for an ISP to switch its customers from BTW IPStream to LLU
without telling them ?

"Mark Carver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Pier Danone wrote:
>> "Mark Carver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>
>> | A week ago ? that was only Monday, the transmitter (Rowridge) is on
>> | the Isle of Wight. National Grid Wireless actually operate the site, as
>> | the Beeb flogged off all their transmitters about 10 years ago. Power
>> | failure, knocked out all four analogue channels, though ITV and C4
>> | bounced back on a lot faster, and radio and DTT was only off for a
>> | minute.
>> |
>>
>> Like an ISP, how the BBC operate their infastructure is not an issue the
>> end
>> user cares about.
>
> So it's OK for an ISP to switch its customers from BTW IPStream to LLU
> without telling them ?
>

Providing the quality of service, etc, is not effected I do not see why not.

You will probably find in the T&C's that they are allowed to change things
like this without asking the user first.

J