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Hollywood
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      07-22-2006, 06:19 PM

This being my first time back to UK since before Live Box was available
I am now sitting here with also my first "ADSL" connection(in the pas
it was cable).

Before I run any 'guess tests,' I wanted to know if the Live Box serve
as a proper 802.11 wireless router or???

I am to understand UK ADSL does not use PPPOE?

I have been able to get the included wireless USB adapter to work fin
on notebooks.

Soon I will be attempting to connect other external devices such a
gaming consoles and ADHOC structure for multiple printers, scanner
etc.

Orange says in order to use external ethernet hardware you need an ADS
modem/router in addition to the Live Box.

I do not see how you could use both the Orange service AND a thir
party ADSL modem simultaneously, nor what the purpose would be.

I attempted to inquire about it with them (of course no response) i
they meant to actually say a "broadband router" instead.

Will a generic broadband router work, or will the Live Box serve as a
appropriate one itself?

Holl


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      07-22-2006, 07:51 PM
Hollywood wrote:
> This being my first time back to UK since before Live Box was available,
> I am now sitting here with also my first "ADSL" connection(in the past
> it was cable).
>
> Before I run any 'guess tests,' I wanted to know if the Live Box serves
> as a proper 802.11 wireless router or???


Yes it does. I think you might need to hold one of the touch buttons to
allow intial wireless connections.

> I am to understand UK ADSL does not use PPPOE?


Uk is primarily PPOA, with aol on PPOE, but that said i have found that many
isps will allow a ppoe login (orange is one of them).

> I have been able to get the included wireless USB adapter to work fine
> on notebooks.
>
> Soon I will be attempting to connect other external devices such as
> gaming consoles and ADHOC structure for multiple printers, scanners
> etc.


> Orange says in order to use external ethernet hardware you need an ADSL
> modem/router in addition to the Live Box.


Nah, just need a simple switch. I cant quite see the point of single port
routers.

> I do not see how you could use both the Orange service AND a third
> party ADSL modem simultaneously, nor what the purpose would be.
>
> I attempted to inquire about it with them (of course no response) if
> they meant to actually say a "broadband router" instead.
>
> Will a generic broadband router work, or will the Live Box serve as an
> appropriate one itself?


A generic ADSL router (not BB, or cable, but most say adsl) will be instead
of the livenbox, but the livebox will do as you wish, but with the addition
of a switch.

Gaz

> Holly



 
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      07-22-2006, 08:14 PM
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:51:58 UTC, "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Nah, just need a simple switch. I cant quite see the point of single port
> routers.


I use one:

line <--> sp Router <---> dedicated firewall <---> switch to rest of
network

There's a possible point!

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      07-22-2006, 08:54 PM
Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:51:58 UTC, "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Nah, just need a simple switch. I cant quite see the point of single port
>> routers.

>
> I use one:
>
> line <--> sp Router <---> dedicated firewall <---> switch to rest of
> network
>
> There's a possible point!


How many 'orange livebox' customers are going to be running a linux firewall
though???

Gaz


 
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      07-22-2006, 09:00 PM
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:54:14 UTC, "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Bob Eager wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:51:58 UTC, "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> Nah, just need a simple switch. I cant quite see the point of single port
> >> routers.

> >
> > I use one:
> >
> > line <--> sp Router <---> dedicated firewall <---> switch to rest of
> > network
> >
> > There's a possible point!

>
> How many 'orange livebox' customers are going to be running a linux firewall
> though???


a) Your comment seemed to be general, so mine was too..not just Orange
livebox. They keep trying to sell me their service, mind.
b) It's not a Linux box; I try to avoid that upstart wannabe UNIX!

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      07-23-2006, 02:04 PM

"Yes it does. I think you might need to hold one of the touch buttons t

allow intial wireless connections."

Could you explain what you mean by a touch button or switch.
I have the wireless enabled, as far as the notebook adapter, not sur
if there's another step involved. After looking through the Live Bo
configuration, I have set it to WPA only security (to avoid blockin
the wireless adapters), channel 6 and overall wirless is enabled.

I did not see anything about SSID though...

Will I need to set gaming console connections to PPPOE/ADSL or shoul
an auto config for "ethernet" suffice?



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Phil Partridge
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      07-25-2006, 11:49 AM
In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bob Eager
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:51:58 UTC, "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Nah, just need a simple switch. I cant quite see the point of single port
>> routers.

>
>I use one:
>
> line <--> sp Router <---> dedicated firewall <---> switch to rest of
>network
>
>There's a possible point!
>

Also, there are two Ethernet ports on the Livebox. - Though I am not
sure if you can use both AND wireless.
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      07-25-2006, 02:36 PM

"Yes it does. I think you might need to hold one of the touch buttons t

allow intial wireless connections."


I have the wireless enabled, as far as the notebook adapter, not sur
if there's another step involved. After looking through the Live Bo
configuration, I have removed WPA and WEP security, disabled th
firewall, set to channel 6; pairing time is 1 minute or less.

I did not see anything about SSID though...





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