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Andrew Benham
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      09-08-2011, 02:42 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ange-launches-
rural-broadband-discount.html

"""Mr Thevenot said that Orange has “seriously considered” charging by
speed received, but that it was not practical because each house’s wiring
could be very different."""

So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
already has that info for its customers.

From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...
 
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The Natural Philosopher
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      09-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Andrew Benham wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ange-launches-
> rural-broadband-discount.html
>
> """Mr Thevenot said that Orange has “seriously considered” charging by
> speed received, but that it was not practical because each house’s wiring
> could be very different."""
>
> So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
> already has that info for its customers.
>
> From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...

Even that don't work..I have nearly doubled synch speed by getting the
best set of wires available..thank you OpenReach engineers, the coffee
and biscuits is always available.
 
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Hermit
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      09-08-2011, 05:01 PM


"Andrew Benham" wrote in message news:j4ak8p$hni$(E-Mail Removed)...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ange-launches-
rural-broadband-discount.html

"""Mr Thevenot said that Orange has “seriously considered” charging by
speed received, but that it was not practical because each house’s wiring
could be very different."""

So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
already has that info for its customers.

From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...

================

Only pay for what you get!!!???

Surely you are joking, Sir.



 
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Paul Cummins
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      09-08-2011, 06:43 PM
We were about to embark at Dover, when (E-Mail Removed)d (The Natural
Philosopher) came up to me and whispered:

> > From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...

> Even that don't work..I have nearly doubled synch speed by getting
> the best set of wires available..thank you OpenReach engineers, the
> coffee and biscuits is always available.


We tried that with my line recently. 4-6 Predicted, actual less than 3
month of the time.

I'm On the best cable to my cab, but there's 250 metres of bell wire
(0.32mm) a mile down the line from here...

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Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
 
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Phil W Lee
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      09-08-2011, 09:20 PM
"Hermit" <(E-Mail Removed)> considered Thu, 8 Sep 2011
18:01:13 +0100 the perfect time to write:

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>
>"Andrew Benham" wrote in message news:j4ak8p$hni$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ange-launches-
>rural-broadband-discount.html
>
>"""Mr Thevenot said that Orange has “seriously considered” charging by
>speed received, but that it was not practical because each house’s wiring
>could be very different."""
>
>So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
>already has that info for its customers.
>
>From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...
>
>================
>
>Only pay for what you get!!!???
>
>Surely you are joking, Sir.
>

It would give them one hell of an incentive to sort out line quality.
 
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      09-08-2011, 10:57 PM
The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Even that don't work..I have nearly doubled synch speed by getting the
>best set of wires available..thank you OpenReach engineers, the coffee
>and biscuits is always available.


Doesn't that spoil their appetites ?

Or am I naively overlooking the possibility that it comes in folding
form?

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Windmill, Use t m i l l
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J.R.R. Tolkien: All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost
 
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Graham.
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      09-09-2011, 03:14 AM

"Windmill" <spam-no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>>Even that don't work..I have nearly doubled synch speed by getting the
>>best set of wires available..thank you OpenReach engineers, the coffee
>>and biscuits is always available.

>
> Doesn't that spoil their appetites ?
>
> Or am I naively overlooking the possibility that it comes in folding
> form?
>



Is that a euphemism sir?
I don't know, I thought it was a bourbon.

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Graham.

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thesimpsons
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      09-09-2011, 06:57 AM
> So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
> already has that info for its customers.
>
> From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...



But the cost of providing ADSL is the same or probably more the greater the
distance you are from the exchange.
Perhaps ISPs should have restricted speeds for everyone to a max of 2meg
thereby reducing the difference between the have and have nots.


 
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Andrew Benham
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      09-09-2011, 11:28 AM
On 09/09/11 07:57, thesimpsons wrote:
>> So why not charge by (inverse) distance from the exchange then ? An ISP
>> already has that info for its customers.
>>
>> From a suburban customer paying for 20 Mb/s and getting 5...

>
>
> But the cost of providing ADSL is the same or probably more the greater the
> distance you are from the exchange.
> Perhaps ISPs should have restricted speeds for everyone to a max of 2meg
> thereby reducing the difference between the have and have nots.


That's a crazy idea.

I'm just wondering about the logic of Orange's ADSL pricing when my
uncle who lives in a tiny village in Norfolk (with no pub, no shop, a
bus once a week, but with a telephone exchange within 100 yards of
his house) could get cheaper and much faster broadband than I can
in suburban London because I'm 2 miles from the exchange.

Just because he's classed as "rural"...
 
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The Natural Philosopher
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      09-09-2011, 01:35 PM
Windmill wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> Even that don't work..I have nearly doubled synch speed by getting the
>> best set of wires available..thank you OpenReach engineers, the coffee
>> and biscuits is always available.

>
> Doesn't that spoil their appetites ?
>
> Or am I naively overlooking the possibility that it comes in folding
> form?
>

No, it doesn't. I am just saying that at the sharp end, whether the
openreach engineer feels like chasing YOUR problem down, or dismissing
you as a stupid tosser who doesn't deserve a decent connection, makes a
huge difference.
 
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