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Armando
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      01-28-2004, 10:20 AM
I'm italian. Apologize for my english.

I have some questions for you:
1) Which are the optic fiber provider in UK (specially in London)?
2) Are provider for HFC or FTTH?
3) Who offers Video on demand?

Please, show me some related internet site.

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Rick Marks
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      01-28-2004, 11:48 AM
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:20:07 GMT, "Armando"
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> I'm italian. Apologize for my english.

(Better than many people's Italian around this NG, most likely.)
>I have some questions for you:
>1) Which are the optic fiber provider in UK (specially in London)?


Numerous companies do: BT, COLT, Energis, Thus, Fibernet...

>2) Are provider for HFC or FTTH?

Telewest and NTL for the former
No significant FTTH (e.g. no FastWeb equivalents)
>3) Who offers Video on demand?


True VoD, as opposed to staggercast:

HomeChoice
http://www.videonetworks.co.uk/

Kingston
http://www.kit.tv/pc/whatiskit.html#vod



 
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Networkguy
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      01-28-2004, 11:50 AM
> I'm italian. Apologize for my english.
>
> I have some questions for you:
> 1) Which are the optic fiber provider in UK (specially in London)?
> 2) Are provider for HFC or FTTH?
> 3) Who offers Video on demand?


You will need to explain what you are trying to do.

Fibre for example can be provided by many companies but to do what? Connect
2 offices? Connect to the internet? Something else?


 
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Armando
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      01-28-2004, 10:54 PM

Networkguy <newsgroups@network##noSPAMplease##guy.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > I'm italian. Apologize for my english.
> >
> > I have some questions for you:
> > 1) Which are the optic fiber provider in UK (specially in London)?
> > 2) Are provider for HFC or FTTH?
> > 3) Who offers Video on demand?

>
> You will need to explain what you are trying to do.
>
> Fibre for example can be provided by many companies but to do what?

Connect
> 2 offices? Connect to the internet? Something else?
>

My research is for:
1) High speed internet navigation (10Mbit/s)
2) Video on demand
3) IP telephony
particularly by FTTH network.


 
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Armando
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      01-28-2004, 11:06 PM
Thanks for your reply.

Are you sure there is no ftth network? I readed ''London is full cabled by
optic fiber'' on an italian newspaper.

See you


Rick Marks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:20:07 GMT, "Armando"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > I'm italian. Apologize for my english.

> (Better than many people's Italian around this NG, most likely.)
> >I have some questions for you:
> >1) Which are the optic fiber provider in UK (specially in London)?

>
> Numerous companies do: BT, COLT, Energis, Thus, Fibernet...
>
> >2) Are provider for HFC or FTTH?

> Telewest and NTL for the former
> No significant FTTH (e.g. no FastWeb equivalents)
> >3) Who offers Video on demand?

>
> True VoD, as opposed to staggercast:
>
> HomeChoice
> http://www.videonetworks.co.uk/
>
> Kingston
> http://www.kit.tv/pc/whatiskit.html#vod
>
>
>



 
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Rick Marks
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      01-29-2004, 01:48 PM
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:06:57 GMT, "Armando"
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>Thanks for your reply.

No problem.
>Are you sure there is no ftth network? I readed ''London is full cabled by
>optic fiber'' on an italian newspaper.


There's a great deal of metro fibre for _business_, of course. London
is one of the best supplied cities for metro services in the world.

e.g.

http://www.exponential-e.com/network...etworkmap.html
http://www.fibernet.co.uk/downloads/...donnetwork.pdf
http://www.neosnetworks.co.uk/maps/n...metro_map.html
http://www.interoute.com/networks_metro.html#

These companies typically use access tails from BT or build out their
own where demand justifies the cost.

But there's no general FttH at all. Few operators can yet make any
kind of business case for doing do. There may be remnants of old
trials and the like but no commercial services.

The two main cable TV companies use HFC of course, with fibre-nodes.
So the customer broadband connection is coax. Their voice telephony
service uses twisted pair ("siamese" cable).

As to your other questions in this thread:

No one is offering VoIP over FTTH (i.e. no UK-copies of the FastWeb/B2
model).
And as far as I know no one in the UK offers a consumer 10Mbits
Internet service over copper or fibre to the home. (I wish!)


 
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      01-29-2004, 10:44 PM
Thanks.

Rick Marks wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:06:57 GMT, "Armando"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply.

> No problem.
>> Are you sure there is no ftth network? I readed ''London is full
>> cabled by optic fiber'' on an italian newspaper.

>
> There's a great deal of metro fibre for _business_, of course. London
> is one of the best supplied cities for metro services in the world.
>
> e.g.
>
> http://www.exponential-e.com/network...etworkmap.html
> http://www.fibernet.co.uk/downloads/...donnetwork.pdf
> http://www.neosnetworks.co.uk/maps/n...metro_map.html
> http://www.interoute.com/networks_metro.html#
>
> These companies typically use access tails from BT or build out their
> own where demand justifies the cost.
>
> But there's no general FttH at all. Few operators can yet make any
> kind of business case for doing do. There may be remnants of old
> trials and the like but no commercial services.
>
> The two main cable TV companies use HFC of course, with fibre-nodes.
> So the customer broadband connection is coax. Their voice telephony
> service uses twisted pair ("siamese" cable).
>
> As to your other questions in this thread:
>
> No one is offering VoIP over FTTH (i.e. no UK-copies of the FastWeb/B2
> model).
> And as far as I know no one in the UK offers a consumer 10Mbits
> Internet service over copper or fibre to the home. (I wish!)


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Graham in Melton
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      01-30-2004, 05:44 PM
There is IMO one private home deployment of a FTTH installation in the UK
- the Greenwich Millennium Village housing scheme.


On 29/1/04 2:48 pm, in article (E-Mail Removed),
"Rick Marks" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:06:57 GMT, "Armando"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply.

> No problem.
>> Are you sure there is no ftth network? I readed ''London is full cabled by
>> optic fiber'' on an italian newspaper.

>
> There's a great deal of metro fibre for _business_, of course. London
> is one of the best supplied cities for metro services in the world.
>
> e.g.
>
> http://www.exponential-e.com/network...etworkmap.html
> http://www.fibernet.co.uk/downloads/...donnetwork.pdf
> http://www.neosnetworks.co.uk/maps/n...metro_map.html
> http://www.interoute.com/networks_metro.html#
>
> These companies typically use access tails from BT or build out their
> own where demand justifies the cost.
>
> But there's no general FttH at all. Few operators can yet make any
> kind of business case for doing do. There may be remnants of old
> trials and the like but no commercial services.
>
> The two main cable TV companies use HFC of course, with fibre-nodes.
> So the customer broadband connection is coax. Their voice telephony
> service uses twisted pair ("siamese" cable).
>
> As to your other questions in this thread:
>
> No one is offering VoIP over FTTH (i.e. no UK-copies of the FastWeb/B2
> model).
> And as far as I know no one in the UK offers a consumer 10Mbits
> Internet service over copper or fibre to the home. (I wish!)
>
>


 
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Rick Marks
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      01-30-2004, 06:36 PM
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:44:24 +0000, Graham in Melton
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> There is IMO one private home deployment of a FTTH installation in the UK
>- the Greenwich Millennium Village housing scheme.


Interesting - any idea who the service provider is and what is
offered?
 
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Brian Morrison
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      01-30-2004, 06:46 PM
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:44:24 +0000, in article
<BC405688.1E068%(E-Mail Removed)> Graham in Melton
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> There is IMO one private home deployment of a FTTH installation in the UK
> - the Greenwich Millennium Village housing scheme.


I note you've modified the subject line, perhaps it was a spell checker
that did it?

Or are you suggesting someone is telling porkies?

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