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Tony
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      01-09-2007, 02:33 PM
I wonder if anyone can help me. I want to monitor bandwidth usegae of my
internet connection, without monitoring LAN activity. Everytime I install a
bandwidth monitor, I end up getting a bandwidth total that includes all LAN
activity as well as WAN activity. How simple is it to get my computer to
ignore LAN bandwidth and just get a total of the WAN side?

Any advice or specific software that will help me to do this would be very
useful.

Thanks a lot.
Tony



 
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      01-09-2007, 04:15 PM

"Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote in message
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>I wonder if anyone can help me. I want to monitor bandwidth usegae of my
> internet connection, without monitoring LAN activity. Everytime I install
> a
> bandwidth monitor, I end up getting a bandwidth total that includes all
> LAN
> activity as well as WAN activity. How simple is it to get my computer to
> ignore LAN bandwidth and just get a total of the WAN side?
>
> Any advice or specific software that will help me to do this would be very
> useful.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Tony


I use CS Fire Monitor. Installed on each machine it should just measure the
bandwidth for that specific computer.

http://www.croftssoftware.com/Downloads.html



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      01-09-2007, 07:31 PM

"F9" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I use CS Fire Monitor. Installed on each machine it should just measure

the
> bandwidth for that specific computer.
>
> http://www.croftssoftware.com/Downloads.html
>


Thanks, but unfortunately this one does the same as everything else.

I just want to measure the bandwidth use of my internet connection (WAN),
and not the local network (LAN).

Tony



 
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      01-09-2007, 07:43 PM
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:31:47 -0000, "Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote:

>I just want to measure the bandwidth use of my internet connection (WAN),
>and not the local network (LAN).


how do you connect - its often easiest to get these stats from the
router.

Otherwise a bandwidth monitor with a selectable IP range may be
required.

Phil
 
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      01-09-2007, 08:26 PM

"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:31:47 -0000, "Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote:
>
> >I just want to measure the bandwidth use of my internet connection (WAN),
> >and not the local network (LAN).

>
> how do you connect - its often easiest to get these stats from the
> router.
>
> Otherwise a bandwidth monitor with a selectable IP range may be
> required.


Hi Phil,

A Netgear DG834G connects to the ADSL

CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (A).

Another CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (B)

Computer (A) stays connected to the internet all the time and is used as a
web server. Computer (B) connects to computer (A) using Remote Desktop.

When I use a bandwidth meter on Computer (A), the bandwisth totals include
all Remote Desktop and file trsnfer activity on the LAN, and this throws the
real figures of the WAN totals way out.

Tony



 
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      01-09-2007, 09:34 PM
"Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote in message
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> "Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:31:47 -0000, "Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote:
>> >I just want to measure the bandwidth use of my internet connection
>> >(WAN), and not the local network (LAN).

>>
>> how do you connect - its often easiest to get these stats from the
>> router.
>>
>> Otherwise a bandwidth monitor with a selectable IP range may be
>> required.

>
> A Netgear DG834G connects to the ADSL
> CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (A).
> Another CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (B)
> Computer (A) stays connected to the internet all the time and is used as
> a web server. [...]


As Phil suggested, the best thing in this case would be to get the
information from the router. A quick Google tells me that the DG834G
supports SNMP (although it unfortunately also tells me that someone thinks
it doesn't work right...) so I would look down that avenue.

No doubt there are alternatives, but the first seemingly suitable and
(hopefully) easy to set up software that Google turned up was
<http://www.paessler.com/prtg>. I have never used it, but it looks like the
free version should do the job. It needs to be installed on an always-on
computer, which I assume (A) is.

Alex


 
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      01-09-2007, 09:47 PM
"Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote in message
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> "Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:31:47 -0000, "Tony" <0000@000.00> wrote:
> >
> > >I just want to measure the bandwidth use of my internet connection

(WAN),
> > >and not the local network (LAN).

> >
> > how do you connect - its often easiest to get these stats from the
> > router.
> >
> > Otherwise a bandwidth monitor with a selectable IP range may be
> > required.

>
> Hi Phil,
>
> A Netgear DG834G connects to the ADSL
>
> CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (A).
>
> Another CAT5 cable from the back of the DG834G to Computer (B)


i think you are monitoring at the wrong place.

Get a router that will allow you to collect stats via SNMP or similar (or
use the one you have)
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/arch...p/t-34194.html

(doesnt work on my WGR614 though)

from what you explain, you want the stats on the WAN interface, although
that might include some overhead traffic - like hacking attempts

then poll the router periodically (anything from 10 sec intervals to hours
or longer) - you will need some SNMP tools to sort this - there are plenty
of public domain ones.
>
> Computer (A) stays connected to the internet all the time and is used as a
> web server. Computer (B) connects to computer (A) using Remote Desktop.
>
> When I use a bandwidth meter on Computer (A), the bandwisth totals include
> all Remote Desktop and file trsnfer activity on the LAN, and this throws

the
> real figures of the WAN totals way out.
>
> Tony

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      01-10-2007, 06:44 PM

"stephen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Get a router that will allow you to collect stats via SNMP or similar (or
> use the one you have)
> http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/arch...p/t-34194.html
>

Yep - PRTG that Alex mentioned will pick this up (assuming the router
supports it) and give graphs and reports for in/out traffic. Just remember
to monitor the WAN interface


 
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      01-10-2007, 08:59 PM

"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> No doubt there are alternatives, but the first seemingly suitable and
> (hopefully) easy to set up software that Google turned up was
> <http://www.paessler.com/prtg>. I have never used it, but it looks like

the
> free version should do the job. It needs to be installed on an always-on
> computer, which I assume (A) is.
>
> Alex


Can anyone suggest the names of other such utilities used to do the same
job?

Free ones (ideally) or paid for titles......

Thanks
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      01-11-2007, 02:36 PM
In MsgID<(E-Mail Removed)> on Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:59:54
-0000, in uk.comp.home-networking, 'Andrew Neil' wrote:

>
>"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> No doubt there are alternatives, but the first seemingly suitable and
>> (hopefully) easy to set up software that Google turned up was
>> <http://www.paessler.com/prtg>. I have never used it, but it looks like

>the
>> free version should do the job. It needs to be installed on an always-on
>> computer, which I assume (A) is.
>>
>> Alex

>
>Can anyone suggest the names of other such utilities used to do the same
>job?
>
>Free ones (ideally) or paid for titles......


Netlimiter used to do this, it's intended to limit IP I/O rates but it
allows you to specify which subnets are local networks and provides you
with graphs of the data flow to and from any IPs that aren't registered as
local. Only trouble is I have a feeling the latest version may no longer
be so forthcoming with the data. Have a search for 'Netlimiter', try the
latest version and if that fails try searching for a mirror of an earlier
version. You don't have to actually use it to limit anything, the version
I took a demo of would allow you to just show the data.

As I said, I've a faint memory that the interface seemed to have gone
downhill when I tried installing a recent version on a friend's machine.
They'd glitzed up the features and it was harder to get the
straightforward graphs. That said, ICBW and it's worth a look. It is paid
software but if you're running any BW intensive applications it may be
worth the price.

OTTOMH try www.netlimiter.com

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