Onetel and Talk Talk what's the connection

I am presently a longtime onetel dial up user and lam ooking to move to
broadband. I don't want to have to change my email address. I note that
there seems to be some sort of relationship between onetel and talktalk. I
also use call18866 for phone calls. Can anyone advise on what
onetel/talktalk are like as a supplier of broadband, what their deals are
and can you still use call18866 for phone calls when you connect up their
broadband modem?

Regards Norman

Norman Sandland wrote:
> I am presently a longtime onetel dial up user and lam ooking to move to
> broadband. I don't want to have to change my email address. I note that
> there seems to be some sort of relationship between onetel and talktalk.

Yes, just a bit ! CPW purchased OneTel's UK business about a year ago.

Mark Carver wrote:
> Norman Sandland wrote:
> > I am presently a longtime onetel dial up user and lam ooking to move to
> > broadband. I don't want to have to change my email address. I note that
> > there seems to be some sort of relationship between onetel and talktalk.
>
> Yes, just a bit ! CPW purchased OneTel's UK business about a year ago.

Also 1899 3p connection is now cheaper then 18866 5p connection.

On 15 Sep 2006 "Norman Sandland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I note that there seems to be some sort of relationship between onetel and talktalk.

AFAIK, TalkTalk bought One.Tel some time ago. Looking on "Google Groups"

(posted by Angus Robertson of Magenta Systems Ltd, his firm's regular
"UK Residential Telecom Tariff Comparisons" found in uk.telecom)...

Version 103, August 2006...
Removed Telco Global and it's Enable Comms and Just Dial brands,
bought by One.Tel and then by Carphone Warehouse, the web
sites have finally disappeared.

On the website (www.magsys.co.uk) there's a "state of the industry" page
which records takeovers and closures, etc...

" One.Tel, by Centrica (aka British Gas), and then by The Carphone
Warehouse (December 2005)"

>Can anyone advise on what onetel/talktalk are like as a supplier of broadband,

Past comments have suggested something of a negative, but it may depend
on how much traffic you use on a regular basis, when, and what applications
you wish to use. Given that there are a lot of unhappy TT users who have
been paying their monthly fees (and have had no broadband at all) it might
be best to hang on until you've seen some comments from the newspapers
and newsgroups, when people have had (not had?) use of that service for
3+ months ...

>and can you still use call18866 for phone calls when you connect up their
>broadband modem?

If the line rental is billed by TT/CW, they could use a block against use
of any indirect access prefixes, but I'm not using their line rental so I
really cannot give a definite answer. While some may like all eggs
in one basket, I don't think I'd want everything in the hands of CW/TT
(nor any other single company), so I would be unlikely to switch rental
in anticipation of some savings when inconvenience could be major if
something goes wrong, either through fault, or just over-stretched
call centres, given level of demand has come as a shock to CW/TT.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:35:59 UTC, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>
> Mark Carver wrote:
> > Norman Sandland wrote:
> > > I am presently a longtime onetel dial up user and lam ooking to move to
> > > broadband. I don't want to have to change my email address. I note that
> > > there seems to be some sort of relationship between onetel and talktalk.
> >
> > Yes, just a bit ! CPW purchased OneTel's UK business about a year ago.
>
> Also 1899 3p connection is now cheaper then 18866 5p connection.

Although 18185 is better value for some calls, despite the 4p connection
charge. I have the PBX set up to use 1899 or 18185, depending on the
destination.

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Thus spaketh NoNeedToKnow:
> On 15 Sep 2006 "Norman Sandland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I note that there seems to be some sort of relationship between
>> onetel and talktalk.
>
> AFAIK, TalkTalk bought One.Tel some time ago. Looking on "Google
> Groups"
>
> (posted by Angus Robertson of Magenta Systems Ltd, his firm's regular
> "UK Residential Telecom Tariff Comparisons" found in uk.telecom)...
>
> Version 103, August 2006...
> Removed Telco Global and it's Enable Comms and Just Dial brands,
> bought by One.Tel and then by Carphone Warehouse, the web
> sites have finally disappeared.
>
> On the website (www.magsys.co.uk) there's a "state of the industry"
> page which records takeovers and closures, etc...
>
> " One.Tel, by Centrica (aka British Gas), and then by The Carphone
> Warehouse (December 2005)"
>
>> Can anyone advise on what onetel/talktalk are like as a supplier of
>> broadband,
>
> Past comments have suggested something of a negative, but it may
> depend
> on how much traffic you use on a regular basis, when, and what
> applications you wish to use. Given that there are a lot of unhappy
> TT users who have been paying their monthly fees (and have had no
> broadband at all) it might be best to hang on until you've seen some
> comments from the newspapers
> and newsgroups, when people have had (not had?) use of that service
> for 3+ months ...
>
>> and can you still use call18866 for phone calls when you connect up
>> their
>> broadband modem?
>
> If the line rental is billed by TT/CW, they could use a block against
> use of any indirect access prefixes, but I'm not using their line
> rental so I really cannot give a definite answer. While some may
> like all eggs
> in one basket, I don't think I'd want everything in the hands of CW/TT
> (nor any other single company), so I would be unlikely to switch
> rental
> in anticipation of some savings when inconvenience could be major if
> something goes wrong, either through fault, or just over-stretched
> call centres, given level of demand has come as a shock to CW/TT.


TalkTalk can and do block access to low-cost calls carriers, they also
have in their terms if you do use them, such as the dial-throughs as the
indirect access is most likely blocked, they will either charge you a
higher price to call those numbers, increase the cost of the line rental
or throw you off their service.


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

> TalkTalk can and do block access to low-cost calls carriers, they also
> have in their terms if you do use them, such as the dial-throughs as the
> indirect access is most likely blocked, they will either charge you a
> higher price to call those numbers, increase the cost of the line rental
> or throw you off their service.

Well, I've had OneTel (now TT) CPS for years, and have never yet had any
other providers blocked. I've been using 1899 and 18866 for over two years
and still no problem. My monthly TalkTalk bill is often zero, and never is
more than 20p, as everything that doesn't get charged zero, goes via other
providers. I am surprised they haven't caught up with me yet !


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On 16 Sep 2006, Mark Carver <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
>> TalkTalk can and do block access to low-cost calls carriers, they also
>> have in their terms if you do use them, such as the dial-throughs as the
>> indirect access is most likely blocked, they will either charge you a
>> higher price to call those numbers, increase the cost of the line rental
>> or throw you off their service.

>Well, I've had OneTel (now TT) CPS for years, and have never yet had any
>other providers blocked. I've been using 1899 and 18866 for over two years
>and still no problem. My monthly TalkTalk bill is often zero, and never is
>more than 20p, as everything that doesn't get charged zero, goes via other
>providers. I am surprised they haven't caught up with me yet !

That's on the CPS service (which is the same as I'm using). I've used 1899
and others too, for the past few years, but recently (as with someone
else in another thread), some calls are being sent via BT (I have set
charge advice "on" to detect any such calls - that's OK by me, in as
much as I also have BT Privacy so would make some calls anyway).

I had (perhaps wrongly) speculated it was a result of my using these
other networks, as it is against the terms of use for getting the free
calls to other TT customers...

However, to get back to the point, and the potential to block - getting the
TalkTalk broadband service requires switching to "Whole Line Rental" and
when that is done, then TT is responsible for which network services do
and don't work. One of the options for them to enable is a block on any
indirect access codes from working (which would mean using 020 or 080x
numbers for access to "low rate" alternative firms, and some of those calls
would then be much more expensive, with per minute charges for using
that method of access). I don't think there's been anyone using CPS
for TT who has so far reported having indirect access calls *blocked*
but we're meaning a different TT service from CPS, and no need for
you to worry (unless you plan on switching to TT for broadband).

I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when (E-Mail Removed)
opened his gob and said:

>Also 1899 3p connection is now cheaper then 18866 5p connection.

I have tried to register with 1899 for MONTHS. they say they haven't
enough capacity for more customers.

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