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Don Phillipson
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      10-05-2010, 12:21 PM
We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that links the
upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N device. The old one
has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin G card upstairs.) Candidates
include D-link (2 antennas) and Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


 
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Charlie Hoffpauir
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      10-05-2010, 05:03 PM
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:21:31 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that links the
>upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N device. The old one
>has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin G card upstairs.) Candidates
>include D-link (2 antennas) and Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?


I don't think number of antennas has anything to do with the question.
And assuming you mean more range by "better", my Cradlepoint MBR-1000
has 3 antennas, and my old Linksys WRT54G has only two, and the range
is farther with the Linksys. But there are factors other than range to
consider in which router is "better".

Why are you replacing the type G router with a type N if you are using
a type G card on the upstairs computer?
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      10-05-2010, 10:12 PM
Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:21:31 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that
> > links the upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N
> > device. The old one has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin
> > G card upstairs.) Candidates include D-link (2 antennas) and
> > Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?

>
> I don't think number of antennas has anything to do with the question.
> And assuming you mean more range by "better", my Cradlepoint MBR-1000
> has 3 antennas, and my old Linksys WRT54G has only two, and the range
> is farther with the Linksys. But there are factors other than range to
> consider in which router is "better".
>
> Why are you replacing the type G router with a type N if you are using
> a type G card on the upstairs computer?


The only consideration would be if the single antenna is detachable and
if you may want to fit a directional antenna to concentrate
transmissions down a tighter path.

This is a distinct advantage although it depends if reception is
currently as good as you would like.

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Don Phillipson
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      10-06-2010, 02:18 PM
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:21:31 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that links
>>the
>>upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N device. The old one
>>has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin G card upstairs.)
>>Candidates
>>include D-link (2 antennas) and Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?



"Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> I don't think number of antennas has anything to do with the question.
> And assuming you mean more range by "better", my Cradlepoint MBR-1000
> has 3 antennas, and my old Linksys WRT54G has only two, and the range
> is farther with the Linksys. But there are factors other than range to
> consider in which router is "better".


> Why are you replacing the type G router with a type N if you are using
> a type G card on the upstairs computer?


Old setup is no more than 80 per cent reliable, using
Trendnet wireless G router downstairs
-- wired to WinXP PC downstairs
-- wired to ISP's wireless broadband modem; (no cable service here.)
-- wireless to upstairs WinXP PC with Belkin wireless G card.
Paradoxes:
1. The broadband wireless modem gets a better signal downstairs
than upstairs. This was a surprise (because it looks through the
treetops to a cell phone tower about 2 km. distant.)
2. The in-house network fails 20 per cent of the time, i.e.
upstairs PC fails to connect with Internet via broadband or
Remote Control fails (configured both ways, to control upstairs PC
from downstairs or vice versa). Connection speed (data transfer)
varies hugely.

Recent prolonged failure of the network suggested circuitry of the
(5 y.o.) Trendnet router was failing. I supposed I would get better
connection with (1) new hardware, (2) type N rather than type G.

"me here" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4cab94c0$(E-Mail Removed)...

> The only consideration would be if the single antenna is detachable and
> if you may want to fit a directional antenna to concentrate
> transmissions down a tighter path.


This makes sense, but I am doubtful if it is feasible here. The
wirelessly connected house PCs are
-- basement south side
-- two floors above. north side,
i.e. the signal runs diagonally through the house, about 50 ft. in a
straight line
distance, but through two floors of structure, furniture etc. and I do not
know how these affect the signal.

I supposed the greater signal strength of wireless N would give me
a more reliable connection, perhaps faster too. Is this not right?

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)





 
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      10-06-2010, 04:10 PM
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:18:22 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:21:31 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that links
>>>the
>>>upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N device. The old one
>>>has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin G card upstairs.)
>>>Candidates
>>>include D-link (2 antennas) and Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?

>
>
>"Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>
>> I don't think number of antennas has anything to do with the question.
>> And assuming you mean more range by "better", my Cradlepoint MBR-1000
>> has 3 antennas, and my old Linksys WRT54G has only two, and the range
>> is farther with the Linksys. But there are factors other than range to
>> consider in which router is "better".

>
>> Why are you replacing the type G router with a type N if you are using
>> a type G card on the upstairs computer?

>
>Old setup is no more than 80 per cent reliable, using
>Trendnet wireless G router downstairs
> -- wired to WinXP PC downstairs
> -- wired to ISP's wireless broadband modem; (no cable service here.)
> -- wireless to upstairs WinXP PC with Belkin wireless G card.
>Paradoxes:
>1. The broadband wireless modem gets a better signal downstairs
>than upstairs. This was a surprise (because it looks through the
>treetops to a cell phone tower about 2 km. distant.)
>2. The in-house network fails 20 per cent of the time, i.e.
>upstairs PC fails to connect with Internet via broadband or
>Remote Control fails (configured both ways, to control upstairs PC
>from downstairs or vice versa). Connection speed (data transfer)
>varies hugely.
>
>Recent prolonged failure of the network suggested circuitry of the
>(5 y.o.) Trendnet router was failing. I supposed I would get better
>connection with (1) new hardware, (2) type N rather than type G.
>
>"me here" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:4cab94c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> The only consideration would be if the single antenna is detachable and
>> if you may want to fit a directional antenna to concentrate
>> transmissions down a tighter path.

>
>This makes sense, but I am doubtful if it is feasible here. The
>wirelessly connected house PCs are
>-- basement south side
>-- two floors above. north side,
>i.e. the signal runs diagonally through the house, about 50 ft. in a
>straight line
>distance, but through two floors of structure, furniture etc. and I do not
>know how these affect the signal.
>
>I supposed the greater signal strength of wireless N would give me
>a more reliable connection, perhaps faster too. Is this not right?


You don't mention getting a new wireless N board for the upstairs
computer, but you do realize that if you don't, you'll still be
operating on wireless G even with the new router...

Mentioned by another... a directional receiving wireless device might
just solve the problem. Of course, a better solution would be a cable
to the upstairs.... but I realize you might not want to do that, for
various reasons. Look into something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER


This is highly directional, so will take some time fidgeting with it
to get the optimum alignment... It might just give you enough "boost"
so that you don't need a new router at all. It would be nice if there
were a store nearby that would take it back if it doesn't do the job.
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Charlie Hoffpauir

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Axel Hammerschmidt
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      10-07-2010, 03:52 PM
Don Phillipson wrote:

> We plan to replace the old Trendnet wireless router (type G) that links
> the
> upstairs and downstairs desktops with a new type N device. The old one
> has a single vertical antenna (like the Belkin G card upstairs.)
> Candidates
> include D-link (2 antennas) and Netgear (1 antenna.) Which is better?


Only two antennas? This particular Netgear (WNHDE111) has 6:

"Netgear utilizes an array of six smart antennas in each device harnessed
with adaptive, software-based beamforming."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ng,2470-2.html

Adaptive software-based beamforming; se adaptive antenna arrays and mobile
phones.

 
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