OK what gives?

Just used a "modified" BT extention cable to run from the BT inlet upto my
PC - pre ADSL install - the main pairs on the ADSL V1.0 "master" spliter at
the back on points 2 and 5 - stupidly connect the ADSL point to my dial up
modem then try to connect - only for it to connect no problems. So either
I've bypassed the ADSL filtering some how OR it's not a***d or something...

I give up - technology confoozez me.

Head vrs wall - wall wins.

Thanks for any hints, clues, confused looks and screaming along the lines of
"you ... what?" or "Oi! You! Numpty!"

Take care all and all the best.

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> Just used a "modified" BT extention cable to run from the BT inlet upto my
> PC - pre ADSL install - the main pairs on the ADSL V1.0 "master" spliter at
> the back on points 2 and 5 - stupidly connect the ADSL point to my dial up
> modem then try to connect - only for it to connect no problems. So either
> I've bypassed the ADSL filtering some how OR it's not a***d or something...

Well, it took a while for me to decipher wtf you were talking about, but
I think in essence you`ve connected the adsl lead into the telephone
socket on the back of your standard modem.

That would work AFAIK.

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"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
> > Just used a "modified" BT extention cable to run from the BT inlet upto
my
> > PC - pre ADSL install - the main pairs on the ADSL V1.0 "master" spliter
at
> > the back on points 2 and 5 - stupidly connect the ADSL point to my dial
up
> > modem then try to connect - only for it to connect no problems. So
either
> > I've bypassed the ADSL filtering some how OR it's not a***d or
something...
>
> Well, it took a while for me to decipher wtf you were talking about, but
> I think in essence you`ve connected the adsl lead into the telephone
> socket on the back of your standard modem.
>
> That would work AFAIK.
>
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Have you been on a special course that allows you to decipher this type of
post?

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, "John Kelly" wrote:

>"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>> Well, it took a while for me to decipher wtf you were talking about, but
>> I think in essence you`ve connected the adsl lead into the telephone
>> socket on the back of your standard modem.
>> That would work AFAIK.

>Have you been on a special course that allows you to decipher this type of
>post?

Whatever the course, I've been on the same one, I think. I had planned to
post that I've swapped the cable from the ADSL modem to a 56k modem to use
(to test the 56k modem; I avoid them nowadays :-) But at 04:00 I thought
it may have been assumed to have taken foreign substances to make head or
tail of the query, and although there's some booze in the house, I had a
bit of cider at lunchtime yesterday, so not under any special influence

> >> Well, it took a while for me to decipher wtf you were talking about,
but
> >> I think in essence you`ve connected the adsl lead into the telephone
> >> socket on the back of your standard modem.
> >> That would work AFAIK.
>
> >Have you been on a special course that allows you to decipher this type
of
> >post?
>
> Whatever the course, I've been on the same one, I think. I had planned to
> post that I've swapped the cable from the ADSL modem to a 56k modem to use
> (to test the 56k modem; I avoid them nowadays :-) But at 04:00 I thought
> it may have been assumed to have taken foreign substances to make head or
> tail of the query, and although there's some booze in the house, I had a
> bit of cider at lunchtime yesterday, so not under any special influence

Right to confirm this - I have a BT extention cable running from the only BT
socket in the house - the end has been removed and hard-wired into the back
of the filter - not at the BT plug end but at the 3 push-in type connectors
where you physicaly pus the cable into the grippers and it forms a
connection when it bites through the insulator.

From there I have my normal phone connected to the BT point and also at the
ADSL point I have my V.90 modem connected.

I was under the assumption that the ADSL and Phone Line frequencies were
split and were not mixed after the "customer side" of the filter.

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:01:00 +0100, "Dark Star" <(E-Mail Removed)>
strung together this:

>Just used a "modified" BT extention cable to run from the BT inlet upto my
>PC - pre ADSL install - the main pairs on the ADSL V1.0 "master" spliter at
>the back on points 2 and 5 - stupidly connect the ADSL point to my dial up
>modem then try to connect - only for it to connect no problems. So either
>I've bypassed the ADSL filtering some how OR it's not a***d or something...
>
>I give up - technology confoozez me.
>
I've been reading this all morning, now I've worked out the encoding
of it I think I can answer your question. (Was there one)?
Anyway, that's correct, it should work like that, ADSL has no filters
as such.
I can't be arsed to explain in the same style as you posted, but just
don't do anything, it's not wrong.
(My head hurts now)
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:29:16 +0100, "Dark Star" <(E-Mail Removed)>
strung together this:

>I was under the assumption that the ADSL and Phone Line frequencies were
>split and were not mixed after the "customer side" of the filter.

No, ADSL filtering doesn't touch the ADSL side of things. Your ADSL
extension socket is directly wired to 2+5 on the master socket. The
filter is between 2+5 on the master and the POTS socket(s).
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

> >I was under the assumption that the ADSL and Phone Line frequencies were
> >split and were not mixed after the "customer side" of the filter.
>
> No, ADSL filtering doesn't touch the ADSL side of things. Your ADSL
> extension socket is directly wired to 2+5 on the master socket. The
> filter is between 2+5 on the master and the POTS socket(s).

Ahh, I see now - so the ADSL socket has the full range and the POTS is
filtered to allow only below X frequency.

Thanks all.

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> >I give up - technology confoozez me.
> >
> I've been reading this all morning, now I've worked out the encoding
> of it I think I can answer your question. (Was there one)?
> Anyway, that's correct, it should work like that, ADSL has no filters
> as such.
> I can't be arsed to explain in the same style as you posted, but just
> don't do anything, it's not wrong.
> (My head hurts now)

Sorry - It was 2AM when I posted my head wa full of networking and such and
I could not get my brain in the right gear to post - so i just went for it
and hoped someone could understand it.

Take care and thanks again.

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He's cracked! You keep him talking - I'll get a net.
Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done.

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