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Anthony R. Gold
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      08-18-2009, 12:12 AM
I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
don't need any wire line phone service.

What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?

Tony
 
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Steve Terry
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      08-18-2009, 01:23 AM

"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
> flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
> call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
> don't need any wire line phone service.
>
> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?
> Tony
>
>

If you have good Three mobile phone coverage, why not go for a Three
payg dongle with a wifi router?
Avoid DSL and the responsibility of a copper wire altogether.

Steve Terry


 
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Anthony R. Gold
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      08-18-2009, 01:53 AM
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:23:32 +0100, "Steve Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
>> flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
>> call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
>> don't need any wire line phone service.
>>
>> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
>> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?
>> Tony
>>
>>

> If you have good Three mobile phone coverage, why not go for a Three
> payg dongle with a wifi router?
> Avoid DSL and the responsibility of a copper wire altogether.


Thanks but four college lads may consume more data than 3's top tier.

I am hoping to provide one of the "unlimited" offers such as O2 or Be etc
or maybe even Sky BB bundled with a Sky+ subscription, which happens to be
what we had provided to one of those four while he was at our home. So I
am hoping there is some way to get a copper pair with limited liability.

BTW how does one connect a USB dongle to the WAN port of a router anyway?

Tony
 
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Graham J
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      08-18-2009, 07:11 AM

"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
> flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
> call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
> don't need any wire line phone service.
>
> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?



Andrews & Arnold will supply a phone line for "ADSL only" purposes. See:
http://www.aaisp.net.uk/broadband-phoneline.html

To quote: "The line itself is installed by Openreach just like a BT line, on
our behalf. You cannot make any chargable calls, but can call emergency
services and freephone numbers from it as well as accepting calls. We supply
the line primarily for use with the broadband service and do not provide
lines without our broadband service associated with them."

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      08-18-2009, 08:06 AM
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:58:19 +0100, Jono <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>>> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
>>>> flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
>>>> call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
>>>> don't need any wire line phone service.

>
> Connect a BT line up with Incoming and Outgoing Calls Barred. (ICB &
> OCB).


Excellent. Many thanks, I will ask BT about the availability of this.

>> BTW how does one connect a USB dongle to the WAN port of a router anyway?

>
> By purchasing a router with a USB socket designed for the purpose.
> Draytek 2820 is one that springs to mind.


Thank you.

Tony
 
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      08-18-2009, 08:15 AM
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:11:18 +0100, "Graham J" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
>> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
>> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?

>
>
> Andrews & Arnold will supply a phone line for "ADSL only" purposes. See:
> http://www.aaisp.net.uk/broadband-phoneline.html


I've been an A&A subscriber since 1993 and they are not now competitive for
retail consumers needing significant daytime usage and who are happy with
NAT and a single IP address.

Tony
 
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      08-18-2009, 08:50 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Anthony R. Gold <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
>flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
>call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
>don't need any wire line phone service.


Put the master socket inside a lockable metal box and run the ADSL cable
out of the box.

Wouldn't stop them splicing into the cable upstram of it though, but...

>What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
>copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?


Outgoing call barring would seem to be the way to go, but it's costs
an extra £2.50 a month and doesn't block international calls made via
an operator!

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...R_call_barring

Gordon
 
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Theo Markettos
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      08-18-2009, 09:52 AM
In uk.telecom Anthony R. Gold <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?


Does it need to be DSL? Virgin cable will do 10Mbit broadband-only for 20
quid/month, or less if you take one of their persistent 'introductory'
offers. Or get free TV thrown in too (though I suppose they could rack up
charges on pay-per-view, probably you can disable that).

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      08-18-2009, 12:32 PM
On 18 Aug 2009 10:52:47 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
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> In uk.telecom Anthony R. Gold <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
>> copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?

>
> Does it need to be DSL? Virgin cable will do 10Mbit broadband-only for 20
> quid/month, or less if you take one of their persistent 'introductory'
> offers. Or get free TV thrown in too (though I suppose they could rack up
> charges on pay-per-view, probably you can disable that).


Thanks for the suggestion.

So long as they don't demand Sky satellite TV, which has the requirement to
provide a working phone line - at least during installation - that may be
another excellent solution.

Tony
 
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      08-18-2009, 05:07 PM
"Steve Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

(none of this). I've lost the first post in this thread...


> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
> > flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
> > call charges.


If you're not sure that you can trust them (or their friends) not to misuse
a phone line, how can you be sure they're not going to misuse an internet
connection which will be (I presume) in your name?


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