Odd problem with belkin wireless router

Hi there, I've been having an odd problem with my belkin wireless
router and was hoping someone might be able to help resolve it.
Basically...

I have two laptops. Sometimes when I turn on one of the laptops, it
connects to my wireless network no problem. However, a lot of the
time the laptop returns a 'Limited or No Connectivity' message. But
then, when I turn on the second laptop, this connects to the wireless
network, which for some reason then enables the first laptop to
connect too...! If I try using the 'Repair' feature on the first
laptop without turning on the second laptop, it won't work; but after
I've turned on the second laptop, both connect fine. I'm sure it's
not a problem with the individual laptops themselves, as the problem
occurs with both of them e.g. if I turn on Laptop A first sometimes it
won't connect properly until I turn on Laptop B; and if I turn on
Laptop B first, sometimes it won't connect properly until I turn on
Laptop A!

I find it totally bizarre and have no idea why it's happening, so if
anyone has any ideas I'm happy to give anything a try!!

As some background info:
I use DHCP, with a Lease Time of Forever. I've tried changing the
Lease to 1 hour, etc, but no difference.
I use WPA-PSK authentication and TKIP encyption.
If neither laptop can connect fully, I restart the router and then
both can connect.

Thanks!!

On Apr 3, 8:03 pm, game4it...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi there, I've been having an odd problem with my belkin wireless
> router and was hoping someone might be able to help resolve it.
> Basically...
>
> I have two laptops. Sometimes when I turn on one of the laptops, it
> connects to my wireless network no problem. However, a lot of the
> time the laptop returns a 'Limited or No Connectivity' message. But
> then, when I turn on the second laptop, this connects to the wireless
> network, which for some reason then enables the first laptop to
> connect too...! If I try using the 'Repair' feature on the first
> laptop without turning on the second laptop, it won't work; but after
> I've turned on the second laptop, both connect fine. I'm sure it's
> not a problem with the individual laptops themselves, as the problem
> occurs with both of them e.g. if I turn on Laptop A first sometimes it
> won't connect properly until I turn on Laptop B; and if I turn on
> Laptop B first, sometimes it won't connect properly until I turn on
> Laptop A!
>
> I find it totally bizarre and have no idea why it's happening, so if
> anyone has any ideas I'm happy to give anything a try!!
>
> As some background info:
> I use DHCP, with a Lease Time of Forever. I've tried changing the
> Lease to 1 hour, etc, but no difference.
> I use WPA-PSK authentication and TKIP encyption.
> If neither laptop can connect fully, I restart the router and then
> both can connect.
>
> Thanks!!

Oops, sorry, the following will probably also be useful!

It's a Belkin G+ MIMO ADSL wireless router.
Hardware version 1.0
Firmware 1.00.04

Any other info required, pls let me know.

Couple Idea's:
I Router Settings
A. It is good practice to have the lease time be less than forever (8
days is usually a good default) unless it is a device that never turns
off and needs to keep the same IP address (I.E. a network printer or a
server)
1. Once you change that, clear all entries in the DHCP client table
2. Once you do that restart all your PC's that are connected to that
router. (wireless and non wireless)
**Note: This may not fix the issue but it will keep you away from
future issues.
3. Try turning off all security settings => test => turn on minimal
security => test => turn on more security => test...
**Note: I have found that security settings have given me some of
the oddest wireless issues, such as the ones you are
currently having.
**Note: be sure to re-enable them if this is not the issue
4. All else fails do a hard reset on router. (this will restore
FACTORY DEFAULTS.)


II PC Settings
1. check your "network connections" (Start => Programs => Accessories
=> Communication) make sure that you do not have any "network
bridges." If you do, delete them. (Unless you set them up or have a
good reason to have them. However, if you don't know how they got
there delete them.)

2. Make sure that internet connection sharing is not enabled on either
PC. (again this is a long shot but hey its windows!)

I had the same weird probnlems and after a lot of searching I found
some posts via Google.
try searching for :local connection vista wireless DHCP etc etc
etc.
If I find some posts I will report them here.

For now the advice would be: DISABLE DHCP!!!

well meant greetings,

Henro


On 3 apr, 22:33, "tlampen" <tlam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Couple Idea's:
> I Router Settings
> A. It is good practice to have the lease time be less than forever (8
> days is usually a good default) unless it is a device that never turns
> off and needs to keep the same IP address (I.E. a network printer or a
> server)
> 1. Once you change that, clear all entries in the DHCP client table
> 2. Once you do that restart all your PC's that are connected to that
> router. (wireless and non wireless)
> **Note: This may not fix the issue but it will keep you away from
> future issues.
> 3. Try turning off all security settings => test => turn on minimal
> security => test => turn on more security => test...
> **Note: I have found that security settings have given me some of
> the oddest wireless issues, such as the ones you are
> currently having.
> **Note: be sure to re-enable them if this is not the issue
> 4. All else fails do a hard reset on router. (this will restore
> FACTORY DEFAULTS.)
>
> II PC Settings
> 1. check your "network connections" (Start => Programs => Accessories
> => Communication) make sure that you do not have any "network
> bridges." If you do, delete them. (Unless you set them up or have a
> good reason to have them. However, if you don't know how they got
> there delete them.)
>
> 2. Make sure that internet connection sharing is not enabled on either
> PC. (again this is a long shot but hey its windows!)

PS: This goes for Vista! Forgot to mention that, sorry....

check this group if u use Vista


microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing

greetings,
earthling


On 4 apr, 11:16, "Henrootje" <Hen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had the same weird probnlems and after a lot of searching I found
> some posts via Google.
> try searching for :local connection vista wireless DHCP etc etc
> etc.
> If I find some posts I will report them here.
>
> For now the advice would be: DISABLE DHCP!!!
>
> well meant greetings,
>
> Henro
>
> On 3 apr, 22:33, "tlampen" <tlam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Couple Idea's:
> > I Router Settings
> > A. It is good practice to have the lease time be less than forever (8
> > days is usually a good default) unless it is a device that never turns
> > off and needs to keep the same IP address (I.E. a network printer or a
> > server)
> > 1. Once you change that, clear all entries in the DHCP client table
> > 2. Once you do that restart all your PC's that are connected to that
> > router. (wireless and non wireless)
> > **Note: This may not fix the issue but it will keep you away from
> > future issues.
> > 3. Try turning off all security settings => test => turn on minimal
> > security => test => turn on more security => test...
> > **Note: I have found that security settings have given me some of
> > the oddest wireless issues, such as the ones you are
> > currently having.
> > **Note: be sure to re-enable them if this is not the issue
> > 4. All else fails do a hard reset on router. (this will restore
> > FACTORY DEFAULTS.)
>
> > II PC Settings
> > 1. check your "network connections" (Start => Programs => Accessories
> > => Communication) make sure that you do not have any "network
> > bridges." If you do, delete them. (Unless you set them up or have a
> > good reason to have them. However, if you don't know how they got
> > there delete them.)
>
> > 2. Make sure that internet connection sharing is not enabled on either
> > PC. (again this is a long shot but hey its windows!)- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Check this!

http://groups.google.nl/group/micros...240a10bd40c8b4

On 3 apr, 21:03, game4it...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi there, I've been having an odd problem with my belkin wireless
> router and was hoping someone might be able to help resolve it.
> Basically...
>
> I have two laptops. Sometimes when I turn on one of the laptops, it
> connects to my wireless network no problem. However, a lot of the
> time the laptop returns a 'Limited or No Connectivity' message. But
> then, when I turn on the second laptop, this connects to the wireless
> network, which for some reason then enables the first laptop to
> connect too...! If I try using the 'Repair' feature on the first
> laptop without turning on the second laptop, it won't work; but after
> I've turned on the second laptop, both connect fine. I'm sure it's
> not a problem with the individual laptops themselves, as the problem
> occurs with both of them e.g. if I turn on Laptop A first sometimes it
> won't connect properly until I turn on Laptop B; and if I turn on
> Laptop B first, sometimes it won't connect properly until I turn on
> Laptop A!
>
> I find it totally bizarre and have no idea why it's happening, so if
> anyone has any ideas I'm happy to give anything a try!!
>
> As some background info:
> I use DHCP, with a Lease Time of Forever. I've tried changing the
> Lease to 1 hour, etc, but no difference.
> I use WPA-PSK authentication and TKIP encyption.
> If neither laptop can connect fully, I restart the router and then
> both can connect.
>
> Thanks!!