odd files won't network

On my network (two computers, wired to a router), occasional files can't
be opened. They are resident on the desktop, where they can obviously
be opened; the laptop can see them across the network (in a shared
folder) but won't open them. The only workaround is to copy-paste their
content into new documents with different names; then they can be
opened. I can see no difference in properties between these documents
and other similar documents which give no trouble.

Is this just common and inevitable or is there a clear cause?
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Trevor Wright

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:59:31 +0000, Trevor Wright
<(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>On my network (two computers, wired to a router), occasional files can't
>be opened. They are resident on the desktop, where they can obviously
>be opened; the laptop can see them across the network (in a shared
>folder) but won't open them. The only workaround is to copy-paste their
>content into new documents with different names; then they can be
>opened. I can see no difference in properties between these documents
>and other similar documents which give no trouble.
>
>Is this just common and inevitable or is there a clear cause?

Do you get any error messages? Could it be that somethign on the
desktop is using the files in some way? What are the files (type)?
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Regards,
Stuart.

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Lurch
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>Do you get any error messages?
Something about unable to access. Will record exactly.
>Could it be that somethign on the
>desktop is using the files in some way?
No, definitely not.
> What are the files (type)?
Document files. Often, possibly always, WordPerfect files. But then
most of my files are WordPerfect, and they don't misbehave like this.

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Trevor Wright

Trevor Wright wrote:
> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Lurch
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>
>> Do you get any error messages?
> Something about unable to access. Will record exactly.
>> Could it be that somethign on the
>> desktop is using the files in some way?
> No, definitely not.
>> What are the files (type)?
> Document files. Often, possibly always, WordPerfect files. But then
> most of my files are WordPerfect, and they don't misbehave like this.
>
What OS are you using?
What OS was used when the documents were written?
One of my cousins was messing about, in learning mode, when he first got
XP Pro and changed various file sharing configurations, sw off/on simple
file sharing, and changing "permissions" which created similar symptoms.

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kev
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>What OS are you using?
XP
>What OS was used when the documents were written?
Win 98 and XP.
>One of my cousins was messing about, in learning mode, when he first
>got XP Pro and changed various file sharing configurations, sw off/on
>simple file sharing, and changing "permissions" which created similar
>symptoms.
How do you switch file sharing? I can only see folder sharing.

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Trevor Wright

Trevor Wright wrote:
> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kev
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>> What OS are you using?
> XP
>> What OS was used when the documents were written?
> Win 98 and XP.
>> One of my cousins was messing about, in learning mode, when he first
>> got XP Pro and changed various file sharing configurations, sw off/on
>> simple file sharing, and changing "permissions" which created similar
>> symptoms.
> How do you switch file sharing? I can only see folder sharing.
>
You didn't mention whether your XP was "Home" or "Pro".
I don't have a copy of "Pro" but there is this kb from Microsoft:-
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kev
>>>symptoms.
>> How do you switch file sharing? I can only see folder sharing.
>>
>You didn't mention whether your XP was "Home" or "Pro".
>I don't have a copy of "Pro" but there is this kb from Microsoft:-
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
>
XP Home and Media Centre

Thankyou, this is interesting, but as far as I can see it works at
folder level only. I'm talking about problems with individual files
within shared folders. Most files within these shared folders share
properly. One or two repeatedly don't. I'm trying to work out why.
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Trevor Wright

Trevor Wright wrote:
> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Kev
>>>> symptoms.
>>> How do you switch file sharing? I can only see folder sharing.
>>>
>> You didn't mention whether your XP was "Home" or "Pro".
>> I don't have a copy of "Pro" but there is this kb from Microsoft:-
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
>>
> XP Home and Media Centre
>
> Thankyou, this is interesting, but as far as I can see it works at
> folder level only. I'm talking about problems with individual files
> within shared folders. Most files within these shared folders share
> properly. One or two repeatedly don't. I'm trying to work out why.
As you have XP Home it doesn't really apply. According to my cousin he
had set some files at level 3 and these could not be accessed over his
network, he cured this by changing the permissions to level 5 and then
decided to use simple file sharing instead.

It may be worth looking at this:-
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308418
I have heard of people having "inheritance" problems but not actually
seen it.

In message <-YqdnR4NX7irwEnYnZ2dnUVZ8s-(E-Mail Removed)>, Kev
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>It may be worth looking at this:-
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308418
>I have heard of people having "inheritance" problems but not actually
>seen it.
Seen many times, basically, you can set permissions at the file/folder
level but if a folder closer to the root has a 'deny' permission and
inheritance is turned on then the deny overrides the allow. Always worth
checking effective permissions when or if you see a problem like this.
As far as the OP, the error message would be most useful.
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Clint Sharp