Number of users?

I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
computers or Tivos get added?
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

As you add more and more computers to the network, the network slows down.
How much it slows down depends on what the computers you are adding are
doing. IMHO browsing web pages will not have much effect, whereas
downloading files will have a much more noticeable effect. How many computer
you can add will depend on the subnet mask, that 255.255.255.xxx number.
Assuming that number is 255.255.255.0 you'll be able to have up to 250+
devices connected to your network. Some routers are configured to only hand
out 10, 20, 50 or some limited number of IP address. Once you reach this
point the next device you connect would not be able to get an IP address. So
it will not be able to join the network. Some routers have very good stats
pages that allow you to get a feel for how well your network is working.

David Hettel
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices



"Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
> WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
> computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
> server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
> 8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
> wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
> anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
> happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
> access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
> trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
> will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
> computers or Tivos get added?
> Charlie Hoffpauir
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Hi
A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one hundred
computers.
For local Network transfer the Network would self control itself.
As for Internet "Speed", it does matter for concurrent use (I.e. people that
surf at the same time).How many concurrent users can surf the Internet
through the same Wireless Connection? http://www.ezlan.net/faq#wconcurrent
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"David Hettel MVP MobileDevices" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> As you add more and more computers to the network, the network slows down.
> How much it slows down depends on what the computers you are adding are
> doing. IMHO browsing web pages will not have much effect, whereas
> downloading files will have a much more noticeable effect. How many
> computer you can add will depend on the subnet mask, that 255.255.255.xxx
> number. Assuming that number is 255.255.255.0 you'll be able to have up to
> 250+ devices connected to your network. Some routers are configured to
> only hand out 10, 20, 50 or some limited number of IP address. Once you
> reach this point the next device you connect would not be able to get an
> IP address. So it will not be able to join the network. Some routers have
> very good stats pages that allow you to get a feel for how well your
> network is working.
>
> David Hettel
> Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
>
>
>
> "Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
>> WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
>> computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
>> server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
>> 8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
>> wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
>> anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
>> happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
>> access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
>> trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
>> will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
>> computers or Tivos get added?
>> Charlie Hoffpauir
>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
>
>

Regarding "A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one
hundred computers." What happened to the recommended limit of ten?

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
> A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one hundred
> computers.
> For local Network transfer the Network would self control itself.
> As for Internet "Speed", it does matter for concurrent use (I.e. people
> that surf at the same time).How many concurrent users can surf the
> Internet through the same Wireless Connection?
> http://www.ezlan.net/faq#wconcurrent
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "David Hettel MVP MobileDevices" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> As you add more and more computers to the network, the network slows
>> down. How much it slows down depends on what the computers you are adding
>> are doing. IMHO browsing web pages will not have much effect, whereas
>> downloading files will have a much more noticeable effect. How many
>> computer you can add will depend on the subnet mask, that 255.255.255.xxx
>> number. Assuming that number is 255.255.255.0 you'll be able to have up
>> to 250+ devices connected to your network. Some routers are configured to
>> only hand out 10, 20, 50 or some limited number of IP address. Once you
>> reach this point the next device you connect would not be able to get an
>> IP address. So it will not be able to join the network. Some routers have
>> very good stats pages that allow you to get a feel for how well your
>> network is working.
>>
>> David Hettel
>> Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
>>> WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
>>> computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
>>> server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
>>> 8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
>>> wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
>>> anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
>>> happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
>>> access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
>>> trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
>>> will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
>>> computers or Tivos get added?
>>> Charlie Hoffpauir
>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
>>
>>
>
>

"AJR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Regarding "A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one
> hundred computers." What happened to the recommended limit of ten?

It's not a recommended limit of machines on a network, it's the physical
limit of connections to any one XP machine. Having said that, anyone who
sets up a peer-to-peer network of more than ten is running into HUGE admin
difficulties.......

Hi
Using Windows XP limits the number of Concurrent connections to the each
computer, but not the number of computers that can be on the Network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"AJR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Regarding "A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one
> hundred computers." What happened to the recommended limit of ten?
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one hundred
>> computers.
>> For local Network transfer the Network would self control itself.
>> As for Internet "Speed", it does matter for concurrent use (I.e. people
>> that surf at the same time).How many concurrent users can surf the
>> Internet through the same Wireless Connection?
>> http://www.ezlan.net/faq#wconcurrent
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "David Hettel MVP MobileDevices" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> As you add more and more computers to the network, the network slows
>>> down. How much it slows down depends on what the computers you are
>>> adding are doing. IMHO browsing web pages will not have much effect,
>>> whereas downloading files will have a much more noticeable effect. How
>>> many computer you can add will depend on the subnet mask, that
>>> 255.255.255.xxx number. Assuming that number is 255.255.255.0 you'll be
>>> able to have up to 250+ devices connected to your network. Some routers
>>> are configured to only hand out 10, 20, 50 or some limited number of IP
>>> address. Once you reach this point the next device you connect would not
>>> be able to get an IP address. So it will not be able to join the
>>> network. Some routers have very good stats pages that allow you to get a
>>> feel for how well your network is working.
>>>
>>> David Hettel
>>> Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
>>>> WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
>>>> computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
>>>> server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
>>>> 8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
>>>> wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
>>>> anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
>>>> happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
>>>> access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
>>>> trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
>>>> will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
>>>> computers or Tivos get added?
>>>> Charlie Hoffpauir
>>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

My reference to "ten" was not in reference to the number of concurrent
connections but to the oft-stated recommendation that the number of
computers in a workgroup(peer -to-peer) network be limited to "ten".

"AJR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Regarding "A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one
> hundred computers." What happened to the recommended limit of ten?
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> A regular peer to peer Network can accommodate more than one hundred
>> computers.
>> For local Network transfer the Network would self control itself.
>> As for Internet "Speed", it does matter for concurrent use (I.e. people
>> that surf at the same time).How many concurrent users can surf the
>> Internet through the same Wireless Connection?
>> http://www.ezlan.net/faq#wconcurrent
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "David Hettel MVP MobileDevices" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> As you add more and more computers to the network, the network slows
>>> down. How much it slows down depends on what the computers you are
>>> adding are doing. IMHO browsing web pages will not have much effect,
>>> whereas downloading files will have a much more noticeable effect. How
>>> many computer you can add will depend on the subnet mask, that
>>> 255.255.255.xxx number. Assuming that number is 255.255.255.0 you'll be
>>> able to have up to 250+ devices connected to your network. Some routers
>>> are configured to only hand out 10, 20, 50 or some limited number of IP
>>> address. Once you reach this point the next device you connect would not
>>> be able to get an IP address. So it will not be able to join the
>>> network. Some routers have very good stats pages that allow you to get a
>>> feel for how well your network is working.
>>>
>>> David Hettel
>>> Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Hoffpauir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a combination wired/wireless home network using an Linksys
>>>> WRT54G. I have 3 DirecTivos connected via wires, and presently 2
>>>> computers connected, 2 wired and 2 wireless and a wireless print
>>>> server. I also have a Linksys switch installed, so I have capacity for
>>>> 8 wired connections (3 on the router and 5 on the switch). I'm
>>>> wondering, what is the total capacity of this kind of network? Can
>>>> anyone give me a site that gives recommendations? What is likely to
>>>> happen if I add "too many" computers... say I allow neighbors to
>>>> access my network.... with the network eventually crash, or will
>>>> trnasfer speed just decrease? Are there any monitoring programs that
>>>> will let me monitor the network,a nd see how well it's doing as more
>>>> computers or Tivos get added?
>>>> Charlie Hoffpauir
>>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"AJR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> My reference to "ten" was not in reference to the number of concurrent
> connections but to the oft-stated recommendation that the number of
> computers in a workgroup(peer -to-peer) network be limited to "ten".
>

That's because once you get over ten members of a peer-to-peer network, the
administration increases HUGELY!