NTL wasting its huge investment

After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.

I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
but NO BROADBAND.

Why?

Cable coming into my flat should be more stable than a BT line.

NTL keeps sending me mail to join up, but I need BROADBAND.

Wonder if wasting investors (and often I see public) money is typical
to British?

typical to British?

lets guess - you come from utopia ?




<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>
> I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
> but NO BROADBAND.
>
> Why?
>
> Cable coming into my flat should be more stable than a BT line.
>
> NTL keeps sending me mail to join up, but I need BROADBAND.
>
> Wonder if wasting investors (and often I see public) money is typical
> to British?
>

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>
> I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
> but NO BROADBAND.

I'm not sure if it's still the case, but when I lived in Leicester,
huge parts of LE3 (but not all of it!) couldn't even get digital NTL
tv... yup, we'd have to do with analogue.

Fosse Road North, Glenfield Road, parts of the New Parks estate,
Newfoundpool

> josh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>
> > I live in a flat where I am offeredNTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
> > but NO BROADBAND.

On 22 Nov, 12:40, "Joseph Hill" <sca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure if it's still the case,

NTL layed cable in my area in 1998.

I live in North London. I have not been able to locate any Post Code in
North London where NTL connects broadband.

As you could see from following post that people are waiting for very
long.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...018964e1f0031b

In fact a year and half back NTL's occassional shop in Harrow's ST ANN
Shoping Centre signed me up for broadband taking my Bank details for
direct debit but when I foind out that I am not going to get Broadband
I had to ask my Bank to stop direct debit.

Cabling of NTL is suitable for much higher speeds than BT telephone
line would be I believe.

So cannot know what to think.

> but when I lived in Leicester,
> huge parts of LE3 (but not all of it!) couldn't even get digitalNTL
> tv... yup, we'd have to do with analogue.
>
> Fosse Road North, Glenfield Road, parts of the New Parks estate,
> Newfoundpool

On 22 Nov 2006 04:40:31 -0800, "Joseph Hill" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I'm not sure if it's still the case, but when I lived in Leicester,
>huge parts of LE3 (but not all of it!) couldn't even get digital NTL
>tv... yup, we'd have to do with analogue.
>
>Fosse Road North, Glenfield Road, parts of the New Parks estate,
>Newfoundpool

They finished converting it about 3 years ago. Much good its done them
as they left it so long most customers went to Sky for sat TV. For
broadband they left that too late as well (18 months after BT enabled
the exchanges for ADSL).

Its NTL. They're useless fuckwits. Situation normal
--
John Naismith

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>
> I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
> but NO BROADBAND.
>
> Why?
>
Well it's not really surprising. Since NTL have such a huge debt, they
seem to be concentrating on making money from the infrastructure they
already have, rather than investing in expanding their network.

I suppose this strategy will have to change if they're pressing ahead
with upgrading their network for 100Mb broadband. Some time ago I moved
to ADSL as NTL were incapable of even providing 1Mb reliable connection;
though having said that, in many places esp. ex Telewest areas, they
provide a very good broadband service.

"Joseph Hill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>>
>> I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
>> but NO BROADBAND.
>
> I'm not sure if it's still the case, but when I lived in Leicester,
> huge parts of LE3 (but not all of it!) couldn't even get digital NTL
> tv... yup, we'd have to do with analogue.

I am amazed NTL are still going, hwne I moved into a new house, it was in a
cabled street, previous
owner had cable, and the box was still plugged in and showed a test page
with huge NTL logos showing

You would think it would be easy to get a TV/Phone service from them. but
according to NTL I
was not in a street with NTL cable, for some reason they could not explain
why I had a working NTL connection but they could not give a cable
connection (despite next door having a working connection).

In the end I gave up, I cut the NTL cable coming into my house (which did
not exist according to NTL) and used the hole they had drilled to stick a
Sat Dish cable instead

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:23:35 -0000, "RH"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am amazed NTL are still going, hwne I moved into a new house, it was in a
>cabled street, previous
>owner had cable, and the box was still plugged in and showed a test page
>with huge NTL logos showing
>
>You would think it would be easy to get a TV/Phone service from them. but
>according to NTL I
>was not in a street with NTL cable, for some reason they could not explain
>why I had a working NTL connection but they could not give a cable
>connection (despite next door having a working connection).
>
>In the end I gave up, I cut the NTL cable coming into my house (which did
>not exist according to NTL) and used the hole they had drilled to stick a
>Sat Dish cable instead

I can explain it to you. NTL will deny this but they lie. Either that
or they have less idea about what goes on inside NTL than I think they
have

If the cable, when it enters your property (garden), goes under
anything other than soil then NTL will refuse service.

I saw our own house disappear from the list of houses on our street
which could receive BB or digital TV. Why? We block paved our drive.
The cable doesn't go under it but NTL thinks it does. The fact that
the entire cable is now in a conduit rather than unprotected THREE
INCHES below a flower bed is obviously a bad thing as far as NTL are
concerned.

I wasn't entirely convinced that NTL were capable of being such
fucking idiots so I printed out the list of houses which could get
BB/digital TV for my postcode and waited. Three more houses got new
driveways last year. Three more houses disappeared from the online
list. Within days in some cases. The latest one had a driveway block
paved in September of this year. The house number disappeared from the
online checker 3 days later.

The reason of course is simple. NTL do not employ any engineers - they
are all self-employed. Therefore no tool budget for anything other
than REALLY basic stuff.
--
John Naismith

John Naismith wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:23:35 -0000, "RH"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>

>
> I wasn't entirely convinced that NTL were capable of being such
> fucking idiots so I printed out the list of houses which could get
> BB/digital TV for my postcode and waited. Three more houses got new
> driveways last year. Three more houses disappeared from the online
> list. Within days in some cases. The latest one had a driveway block
> paved in September of this year. The house number disappeared from the
> online checker 3 days later.

How did they know ?

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> After Virgin joined I had hoped things will change, but NO.
>
> I live in a flat where I am offered NTL-TV, Phone and Dialup Internet,
> but NO BROADBAND.
>
> Why?
>
> Cable coming into my flat should be more stable than a BT line.
>
> NTL keeps sending me mail to join up, but I need BROADBAND.
>
> Wonder if wasting investors (and often I see public) money is typical
> to British?
>

A full analysis / critique of the adequacy of NTL's business plan,
managerial competence and standards of customer service would be far too
long for a post in a group, but my advice would be to think very long and
hard before investing in the company or even doing business with them as a
retail customer.

PS Have a look at '3' (Hutchinson Whampoa) to see the class leader in this
field - and oh yes DON'T pay up front...