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MattB
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      04-14-2005, 11:55 AM
Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national roll-out
over the next year? I would like to know if they or Telewest plan to
install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the foreseeable future. Their
website has a standard availability checker, but no indication of future
plans to install in my area. Thought I'd ask here before hanging around
for ages on their helpline.

Cheers,

M
 
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      04-14-2005, 02:41 PM
MattB wrote:
> Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national
> roll-out over the next year? I would like to know if they or
> Telewest plan to install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the
> foreseeable future. Their website has a standard availability
> checker, but no indication of future plans to install in my area. Thought
> I'd ask here before hanging around for ages on their helpline.
>
> Cheers,
>


Well it's been a long time since I've seen a pig fly so you may be lucky but
I seriously doubt it...


 
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Richard Sobey
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      04-14-2005, 03:30 PM
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:52 +0100, MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national roll-out
>over the next year? I would like to know if they or Telewest plan to
>install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the foreseeable future. Their
>website has a standard availability checker, but no indication of future
>plans to install in my area. Thought I'd ask here before hanging around
>for ages on their helpline.


Hey Matt

There's probably a reason for you wanting to use ntl, but if there
isn't anything set in stone that forces you to (e.g. no ADSL
capability) then my advice, and I suspect others in this group, would
be to avoid ntl like the plague. I'd go so far as to say that I'd
rather stay on dial up instead of getting their services!
 
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The Caretaker
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      04-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Richard Sobey wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:52 +0100, MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national roll-out
>>over the next year? I would like to know if they or Telewest plan to
>>install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the foreseeable future. Their
>>website has a standard availability checker, but no indication of future
>>plans to install in my area. Thought I'd ask here before hanging around
>>for ages on their helpline.

>
>
> Hey Matt
>
> There's probably a reason for you wanting to use ntl, but if there
> isn't anything set in stone that forces you to (e.g. no ADSL
> capability) then my advice, and I suspect others in this group, would
> be to avoid ntl like the plague. I'd go so far as to say that I'd
> rather stay on dial up instead of getting their services!


I disagree.

I use NTL ADSL and it's absolutely fine. As was their dial-up for me
and cable before that. (Different houses and areas) Especially as our
phone bill is pretty low and the £15 free calls for £24 a month really
makes it worth our while to go NTL rather than others. We effectively
pay nothing for the phone.

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kraftee
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      04-14-2005, 06:26 PM
The Caretaker wrote:
> Richard Sobey wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:52 +0100, MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national
>>> roll-out over the next year? I would like to know if they or
>>> Telewest plan to install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the
>>> foreseeable future. Their website has a standard availability
>>> checker, but no indication of future plans to install in my area.
>>> Thought I'd ask here before hanging around for ages on their
>>> helpline.

>>
>>
>> Hey Matt
>>
>> There's probably a reason for you wanting to use ntl, but if there
>> isn't anything set in stone that forces you to (e.g. no ADSL
>> capability) then my advice, and I suspect others in this group, would
>> be to avoid ntl like the plague. I'd go so far as to say that I'd
>> rather stay on dial up instead of getting their services!

>
> I disagree.
>
> I use NTL ADSL and it's absolutely fine. As was their dial-up for me
> and cable before that. (Different houses and areas) Especially as our
> phone bill is pretty low and the £15 free calls for £24 a month
> really makes it worth our while to go NTL rather than others. We
> effectively pay nothing for the phone.


Just to clarify, are you on ADSL or on a Cable Modem?


 
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      04-14-2005, 07:48 PM
kraftee wrote:
> The Caretaker wrote:
>
>>Richard Sobey wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:52 +0100, MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national
>>>>roll-out over the next year? I would like to know if they or
>>>>Telewest plan to install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the
>>>>foreseeable future. Their website has a standard availability
>>>>checker, but no indication of future plans to install in my area.
>>>>Thought I'd ask here before hanging around for ages on their
>>>>helpline.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey Matt
>>>
>>>There's probably a reason for you wanting to use ntl, but if there
>>>isn't anything set in stone that forces you to (e.g. no ADSL
>>>capability) then my advice, and I suspect others in this group, would
>>>be to avoid ntl like the plague. I'd go so far as to say that I'd
>>>rather stay on dial up instead of getting their services!

>>
>>I disagree.
>>
>>I use NTL ADSL and it's absolutely fine. As was their dial-up for me
>>and cable before that. (Different houses and areas) Especially as our
>>phone bill is pretty low and the £15 free calls for £24 a month
>>really makes it worth our while to go NTL rather than others. We
>>effectively pay nothing for the phone.

>
>
> Just to clarify, are you on ADSL or on a Cable Modem?


Now on ADSL, and it's as good, if not better, than cable was.

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      04-14-2005, 08:24 PM
The Caretaker wrote:
> kraftee wrote:
>> The Caretaker wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Sobey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:52 +0100, MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national
>>>>> roll-out over the next year? I would like to know if they or
>>>>> Telewest plan to install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the
>>>>> foreseeable future. Their website has a standard availability
>>>>> checker, but no indication of future plans to install in my area.
>>>>> Thought I'd ask here before hanging around for ages on their
>>>>> helpline.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Matt
>>>>
>>>> There's probably a reason for you wanting to use ntl, but if there
>>>> isn't anything set in stone that forces you to (e.g. no ADSL
>>>> capability) then my advice, and I suspect others in this group,
>>>> would be to avoid ntl like the plague. I'd go so far as to say
>>>> that I'd rather stay on dial up instead of getting their services!
>>>
>>> I disagree.
>>>
>>> I use NTL ADSL and it's absolutely fine. As was their dial-up for
>>> me and cable before that. (Different houses and areas) Especially
>>> as our phone bill is pretty low and the £15 free calls for £24 a
>>> month really makes it worth our while to go NTL rather than others.
>>> We effectively pay nothing for the phone.

>>
>>
>> Just to clarify, are you on ADSL or on a Cable Modem?

>
> Now on ADSL, and it's as good, if not better, than cable was.


So you are using a BT supplied ADSL on a BT telephone line (claiming it's
better than a cable modem) & yet extolling the virtues of NTL.....

Does not compute........


 
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      04-14-2005, 09:12 PM
In article <rKadnZ6HT7inx8PfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>,
MattB <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> Does anyone know where to find info on NTL's projected national roll-out
> over the next year? I would like to know if they or Telewest plan to
> install in my area Crewe, Cheshire in the foreseeable future. Their
> website has a standard availability checker, but no indication of future
> plans to install in my area. Thought I'd ask here before hanging around
> for ages on their helpline.


Go to your local stationers, ask for a ream of copier paper, and you'll
be presented with 500 copies of NTL's total roll-out plan for the next
year, with Telewest's plan on the other side for good measure :-)

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Ste Kearney
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      04-14-2005, 09:46 PM
>>>>
>>>> I disagree.
>>>>
>>>> I use NTL ADSL and it's absolutely fine. As was their dial-up for
>>>> me and cable before that. (Different houses and areas) Especially
>>>> as our phone bill is pretty low and the £15 free calls for £24 a
>>>> month really makes it worth our while to go NTL rather than others.
>>>> We effectively pay nothing for the phone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, are you on ADSL or on a Cable Modem?

>>
>> Now on ADSL, and it's as good, if not better, than cable was.

>
> So you are using a BT supplied ADSL on a BT telephone line (claiming
> it's better than a cable modem) & yet extolling the virtues of NTL.....
>
> Does not compute........


I got NTL 3mb cable and Metronet 1mb ADSL and both are fine. I prefer
the NTL one actually (on it now), I've not idea why, just *feels* more
like a LAN than using a phone line.

Neither have let me down.

Ste

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      04-15-2005, 06:17 AM
kraftee wrote:

> So you are using a BT supplied ADSL on a BT telephone line (claiming it's
> better than a cable modem) & yet extolling the virtues of NTL.....
>
> Does not compute........


When I lived in Nottingham I had NTL cable feed, which was crap.
Intermittent drop-oputs, regular slow speeds, slower than dial-up
occasionally, even to the point of simply not working.

Now I live elsewhere I managed for a year with NTL Freedom dial-up,
which in this area was absolutely fine and stable, with about a 48 to
52k connection speed.

Now I have a BT line with NTL ADSL broadband access and I have
absolutely no problems with it. I've not re-booted since turning it on
about 3 months ago. I don't, howver, use the NTL modem, I have a wifi
AP and router, which I think makes a difference.

I'm on the Freedom telephone package 512k + £15 telephone calls and it's
great. I regularly achieve well over 750k d/l and always 240k u/l.

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