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Gunnr
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      10-17-2003, 07:20 PM
Can I use any router to connect to the NTL box on the wall or do I need a
specific make/model?

My friend is a keen gamer and is finding the USB connection provided by NTL
to be a tad laggy.

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Brian McIlwrath
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      10-17-2003, 07:36 PM

"Gunnr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can I use any router to connect to the NTL box on the wall or do I

need a
> specific make/model?


Presumably your NTL modem has BOTH USB and Ethernet (RJ45?) sockets?
If so virtually any router will do.


 
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      10-17-2003, 10:54 PM
"Brian McIlwrath" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "Gunnr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bmpfd6$paq6m$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can I use any router to connect to the NTL box on the wall or
>> do I need a specific make/model?

>
> Presumably your NTL modem has BOTH USB and Ethernet (RJ45?)
> sockets? If so virtually any router will do.
>

....virtually any "cable/DSL router" = a router designed to work
with a separate cable or ADSL modem. On the other hand an "ADSL
router" has a built-in ADSL modem and won't work in your case.

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BRG
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      10-17-2003, 11:02 PM
"Gunnr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> My friend is a keen gamer and is finding the USB connection
> provided by NTL to be a tad laggy.
>


Presumably "tad laggy" equates to ping latency?

What makes you think that adding a router into the Internet link path
will reduce it?

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Brian McIlwrath
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      10-18-2003, 09:16 AM

"BRG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >
> ...virtually any "cable/DSL router" = a router designed to work
> with a separate cable or ADSL modem. On the other hand an "ADSL
> router" has a built-in ADSL modem and won't work in your case.


I thought that was too obvious to mention!


 
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      10-18-2003, 10:27 AM
"Brian McIlwrath" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "BRG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message >
>> ...virtually any "cable/DSL router" = a router designed to work
>> with a separate cable or ADSL modem. On the other hand an "ADSL
>> router" has a built-in ADSL modem and won't work in your case.

>
> I thought that was too obvious to mention!
>

.... to most of us, but a beginner might easily be misled by the
slightly illogical terminology.

One I nearly tripped up on recently was a "wireless-ready broadband
router" i.e. a wireless router for which the wireless functionality
is an extra-cost option!

- bl88dy marketeers :-)


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Gunnr
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      10-18-2003, 12:02 PM
I'll start from the begining, it may make things easier.

My friend has a standard NTL setup with a box on the wall and a USB
connection at the other end for the computer and a little box in the middle
which I presume is the NTL 'modem' (i know its not really a modem but they
seem to be called that still for cable/dsl)

Due to the game he plays (Dark Age of Camelot) it has issues when trying to
run 2 instances of the game (as you can do) with lag. It is well know that
if you use a USB connection to the .net with these kinds of games you can
experience lag. Don't ask me for the wiggly amp explanation but it does
happen.

People who switch from the USB connection find the lag dissapears. In my
case it was easy to get rid of USB and get a PCI ISDN card for my Home
Highway. I am wondering what the similar 'fix' is for an NTL setup.

Ethernet card to router/modem to socket in wall would be ideal but I cannot
find anything about whether you can do this with NTL.

Thanks in advance.


 
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Jock Mackirdy
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      10-18-2003, 06:30 PM
In article <bmra4s$pvh1p$(E-Mail Removed)>, Gunnr wrote:

> Ethernet card to router/modem to socket in wall would be ideal but I cannot
> find anything about whether you can do this with NTL.


Cable from NTL modem to wall (and thence to street) is coax. I use a Belkin
DSL/cable router, which has a port for the modem and 4 for computers.
Installation is a piece of cake provided you follow the instructions.


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Paul W
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      10-20-2003, 09:02 AM
> My friend has a standard NTL setup with a box on the wall and a USB
> connection at the other end for the computer and a little box in the

middle
> which I presume is the NTL 'modem' (i know its not really a modem but they
> seem to be called that still for cable/dsl)


The ntl: modem probably has an ethernet port as well as the usb port (mine
does), just put a cheap network card in his machine and connect via
ethernet.

With only one machine there is no need for a router.

Hope this helps,

Paul.


 
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Clive Backham
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      10-20-2003, 09:04 AM
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:02:38 +0100, "Gunnr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>People who switch from the USB connection find the lag dissapears. In my
>case it was easy to get rid of USB and get a PCI ISDN card for my Home
>Highway. I am wondering what the similar 'fix' is for an NTL setup.
>
>Ethernet card to router/modem to socket in wall would be ideal but I cannot
>find anything about whether you can do this with NTL.


This is precisely what you can do. The NTL cable modem has both USB
and ethernet connections on the back. Stick an ethernet card in the PC
(can be had for under a tenner), and connect it to the cable modem
with a standard (non-crossover) CAT5 ethernet cable. No need for a
router (unless your friend has more than one PC and wishes to share
the connection among them).
 
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