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Jackeline D
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      05-03-2004, 08:56 PM
I am on NTL broadband and use XP Pro. I don't think I am using a
proxy server.

When I post to the Usenet via "text.news.ntlworld.com" then I see
that in the headers that my IP address is 81.111.135.93

However when I go to this website:
http://megawx.aws.com/support/faq/software/ip.asp
then it says my IP address is something else: 62.255.64.8

That seemed odd so I went to:
http://www.all-nettools.com/privacy/anon.htm
and clicked the green CHECK button near the bottom of the page.
I got this:

<QUOTE>
Proxy server detected
You came from: 81.111.135.93
Remote address: 62.255.64.18
Remote host: 62.255.64.18
<END QUOTE>

Why is this happening?

I do not have any proxy entries in my browser or in my newsreader.

Where is the proxy being set up as I don't think I did it.


Jax
 
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BRG
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      05-03-2004, 09:15 PM
Jackeline D <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:Xns94DEDF28B28E53F89A@62.253.162.206:

> Where is the proxy being set up as I don't think I did it.
>


Jax,

In common with many ISPs, NTL uses transparent web caches. All HTTP
traffic on port 80 is automatically handled by a caching proxy
server.

Why? It reduces costs for NTL - if the page you're after can be
served from an NTL cache server, it reduces traffic on their
external Internet connections which cost them real money. It also
improves response time to the user - provided the cache server is
not overloaded/ misconfigured/ confused/ broken :-)

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Janice
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      05-03-2004, 09:17 PM

"Jackeline D" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns94DEDF28B28E53F89A@62.253.162.206...
> I am on NTL broadband and use XP Pro. I don't think I am using a
> proxy server.
>
> When I post to the Usenet via "text.news.ntlworld.com" then I see
> that in the headers that my IP address is 81.111.135.93
>
> However when I go to this website:
> http://megawx.aws.com/support/faq/software/ip.asp
> then it says my IP address is something else: 62.255.64.8
>
> That seemed odd so I went to:
> http://www.all-nettools.com/privacy/anon.htm
> and clicked the green CHECK button near the bottom of the page.
> I got this:
>
> <QUOTE>
> Proxy server detected
> You came from: 81.111.135.93
> Remote address: 62.255.64.18
> Remote host: 62.255.64.18
> <END QUOTE>
>
> Why is this happening?
>
> I do not have any proxy entries in my browser or in my newsreader.
>
> Where is the proxy being set up as I don't think I did it.
>
>
> Jax


It's NTL's doing - you don't have any say in it. All traffic goes through
the transparent cache. See here if you want more info;
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...trancache.html

Janice


 
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Black Shuck
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      05-03-2004, 10:34 PM
BRG wrote:
provided the cache server is
> not overloaded/ misconfigured/ confused/ broken :-)


Which in the case of NTL, is almost always.. The problems their
"transparent" proxy caused me, was one of my main reasons for leaving
them (along with they did not know their arse from their elbow).

 
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Roy
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      05-08-2004, 09:03 AM
In message <MRzlc.39409$Y%(E-Mail Removed)>, Black Shuck
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Which in the case of NTL, is almost always.. The problems their
>"transparent" proxy caused me, was one of my main reasons for leaving
>them (along with they did not know their arse from their elbow).
>

I' off too as soon as BT have their end of things fixed to an ISP that
has faster up speed for the same price, no locked ports, No Poxy Proxies
and provides as many fixed IP addresses as I need [actually 16 in all].
My NTL 'experience' is up on 23rd )

Cheers.
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Bob Evans
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      05-08-2004, 11:24 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Roy
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
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>I' off too as soon as BT have their end of things fixed to an ISP that
>has faster up speed for the same price, no locked ports, No Poxy
>Proxies and provides as many fixed IP addresses as I need [actually 16
>in all].


Yes, it all seems to have gone to pot

I had enjoyed eleven and a half months of excellent connectivity - a
very few short-lived outages and no enforced cacheing proxy server. I
was even recommending NTL broadband to others.

That changed in mid-Feb when a proxy server was suddenly interposed and
it all fell apart - extended periods of slow, stuttery or no web access,
certain websites unreachable. Performance of certain other non-HTTP
services has also degraded.

NTL TS staff are pleasant and sympathetic but seem powerless to overcome
such enforced incompetence. Their promise that it would all come right
in a couple of weeks expired long ago and I do not regard their
suggested interim "fix" [changing my configuration to hop from one proxy
server to another until I find one that works for the website I'm am
trying to reach] as any kind of a solution to the cock-up that NTL have
created.

In consequence, I'm now "interviewing" ADSL providers in preparation for
transferring my custom to an ISP who can provide good quality Internet
connectivity without enforced filtering, proxying or any other messing
about.

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Khyle
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      05-08-2004, 11:43 AM
Bob Evans wrote:
> I had enjoyed eleven and a half months of excellent connectivity - a
> very few short-lived outages


Interestingly enough I've not been disconnected from the network once (or at
least never when it affected me) since August last year.

....Until this morning...

Meh. It was only one outage. I'm not too upset...

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chris
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      05-08-2004, 06:57 PM
On Sat, 8 May 2004 12:43:48 +0100 and in article <SI3nc.66$0c.51
@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net>, Khyle said...
: Bob Evans wrote:
: > I had enjoyed eleven and a half months of excellent connectivity - a
: > very few short-lived outages
:
: Interestingly enough I've not been disconnected from the network once (or at
: least never when it affected me) since August last year.
:
: ...Until this morning...

Ha! You must be on the Stapleford UBR then? Because I am on that as
well, and according to NTL a power cut knocked out everyone's access on
that UBR this morning.

I agree tho, our UBR is seemingly 100% reliable.

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Khyle
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      05-08-2004, 10:28 PM
chris wrote:

> Ha! You must be on the Stapleford UBR then? Because I am on that as
> well, and according to NTL a power cut knocked out everyone's access
> on that UBR this morning.


Didn't know you were so close...! ;-)

I didn't know what it was. Just woke up, couldn't sign on to Messenger,
fiddled around with the CM for a bit (unplugged it and banged it on the
desk. OK, I know it's not likely to do anything but when you're in a
neanderthal state of mind in the morning... ;-)).

Meh. All seems fine now. No emails lost, by the looks of things.

> I agree tho, our UBR is seemingly 100% reliable.


Shhhh! Don't tell them that - they'll realise and then they'll turn the
thing off... :-P

I've always praised the actual connection, it's just the servers which are
screwed. I run email and stuff locally now (not news...) so I've never had
any lost email!

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Khyle
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      05-08-2004, 10:30 PM
Khyle wrote:

> Meh. All seems fine now. No emails lost, by the looks of things.


Didn't even force a new IP upon me either, which I'm more than happy about!
I expected to have go through all the domains and subdomains and give them
all the new IP, and hope the DNS servers updated relatively soon! ;-)
(no, I'm too cheap to use DynDNS or similar :-P)

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