NTL broadband con

So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here think
that a 150k service can be called broadband.

Informer wrote:

> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here think
> that a 150k service can be called broadband.
>
>

I thought Oftell already defined a broadband service as being > 256kbps

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:03:30 -0000, Informer wrote:

> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here think
> that a 150k service can be called broadband.

It's not a con - they advertise the speed and you don't have to take the
service. Yes, I know it's not technically broadband but it's still an
always-on connection.

Regards

Bill

"phoenix" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:03:30 -0000, Informer wrote:
>
> > So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's.
I
> > tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve
to
> > claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here
think
> > that a 150k service can be called broadband.
>
> It's not a con - they advertise the speed and you don't have to take the
> service. Yes, I know it's not technically broadband but it's still an
> always-on connection.
>
> Regards
>
> Bill


and I guess the speed is also reflected by the price?

On 19 Nov 2003, Dave wrote

>
> "phoenix" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6051omswinui$.1508k4u9lwl33$.(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:03:30 -0000, Informer wrote:
>>
>>> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service
>>> and BT's.
>>> I
>>> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have
>>> the nerve
>>> to
>>> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does
>>> anyone here
>>> think
>>> that a 150k service can be called broadband.
>>
>> It's not a con - they advertise the speed and you don't have to
>> take the service. Yes, I know it's not technically broadband but
>> it's still an always-on connection.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> and I guess the speed is also reflected by the price?
>
>

It is indeed: the 150K service is, IIRC, 17.99/month. (There's a
better deal for this speed from Tiscali.)

I don't think BT has a lower-speed product, do they? Isn't the "base
service" the 512K one?

The OP's comparing apples and oranges; the only meaningful comparison
is something like:

NTL 150K 17.99
Tiscali 150K 15.99(?)
BT 150K n/a

BT 512/256K 24.99(?)
NTL 600/128K 24.99

(Which is all much of a much-ness, I'd say: what we gain from NTL on
download speed we pay for in reduced upload speed -- fair 'nuff.)

--
Cheers, Harvey

For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.

"Informer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3fbb1581$0$249$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here
think
> that a 150k service can be called broadband.

I use a 400Mbit connection, how can BT's 512k service be called broadband?
)

NTL's 150k service has broader bandwidth than a standard dial up or even
dual channel ISDN. So yes, I think it can be called broadband.

"Treefrog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Informer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3fbb1581$0$249$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's.
I
> > tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve
to
> > claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here
> think
> > that a 150k service can be called broadband.
>
> I use a 400Mbit connection, how can BT's 512k service be called broadband?
> )
>
> NTL's 150k service has broader bandwidth than a standard dial up or even
> dual channel ISDN. So yes, I think it can be called broadband.

In fact 56k is broadband! I've just read this in a document written in 1984.
;o)

"1200 baud is usually regarded as the fastest speed possible on an
ordinary voice-grade telephone line. Beyond this, noise on the line
due to the switching circuits at the various telephone exchanges,
poor cabling, etc. make accurate transmission difficult. Indeed, at
higher speeds it becomes increasingly important to use transmission
protocols that include error correction."

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
> Informer wrote:
>
>> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and
>> BT's. I tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL
>> have the nerve to claim that their 150K service is actually
>> broadband. Does anyone here think that a 150k service can be called
>> broadband.
>>
>>
>
> I thought Oftell already defined a broadband service as being >
> 256kbps

I thought it was >128k. Isn't that why NTL raised the speed of their
package from 128 to 150k (and put the cost up from £15/m to £18/m) ?

"Informer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3fbb1581$0$249$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here
think
> that a 150k service can be called broadband.

Well, I think it can be classed as broadband - as long as people are made
aware of the speed (150k) in adverts etc.

Its always on and doesn't tie up phone lines, just like their faster
products and is much faster than dialup.

I used to have their 64k service which was £14.99 a month - same as I'd pay
for a evening and weekends free dialup, with a high ping. So same price,
but low ping was great.

Now have their 150k service and it does me fine. Would like faster, but the
£7 or so a month saving is important for me, so I'm happy with it.

D

Get a grip ntl... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3278375.stm
Read it and weep!

Hey ho.. off to Japan.


"Informer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3fbb1581$0$249$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So what's the difference between NTL's basic broadband service and BT's. I
> tell you its 362K. BT's basic service is 512K while NTL have the nerve to
> claim that their 150K service is actually broadband. Does anyone here
think
> that a 150k service can be called broadband.
>
>