NS Domains

I'm having a little trouble understanding the concept behind the concept of
MS domains. Is there an analogy in Linux/Unix?

Thanks

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:49:22 -0500, Ray Little wrote:

> I'm having a little trouble understanding the concept behind the concept of
> MS domains. Is there an analogy in Linux/Unix?

Older NT4 style domains or Active Directory ? Since Active Directory is
based on LDAP, OpenLDAP would be the closest. NIS is also similar in
function to Windows domains...Users accounts stored in a central location,
and propogated to slave/backup servers for redundancy.

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- Matt -

Ray Little wrote:
> I'm having a little trouble understanding the concept behind the
concept of
> MS domains. ...

You are not alone ;-)

> ... Is there an analogy in Linux/Unix?

Not really -- thank the heavens.

Windows networking grew from the idea of workgroups and peer-to-peer
networking to something more "hierarchical" with domains.

Domains provide a centralized means of locating resources and
authentication. These days domains use Active Directory and to
maintain and administer this centralized resource/authentication info.

*nix provides NIS (yellow pages, yp*) in years past, but most networks
are moving to directory servers and LDAP as a means of providing
centralized resource/authentication info.

Active Directory also uses LDAP, but Windows networks are organized on
principles that no rational person would ever purposefully design. Due
to MS's old workgroup heritage and need to maintain backward
compatibility, we now have to deal with domains, trees, forests, and
trust relationships. Yuk!

Entire multi-volume tomes have been written on domains and Active
Directory. The Samba docs provide some good info that goes some way to
explaining domains.

If you need to hook up Linux clients to a Windows AD domain then you
will have to do some work.

With Samba, you cannot implement a complete AD solution. In Windows,
unless you're the domain admin, you don't have any control over how the
network is organized. You can burn up a lot of brain cells on this
topic

Here's some background links:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...adintro_10.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...r/default.mspx
http://windows.about.com/od/tipsarchive/l/aa061399.htm
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art...Directory.html

hth,
prg

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:49:22 -0500, Ray Little wrote:

> I'm having a little trouble understanding the concept behind the concept of
> MS domains. Is there an analogy in Linux/Unix?
>
> Thanks

Broken!

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Tayo'y Mga Pinoy

Thank you. I'll research the links provided.

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>
> Ray Little wrote:
>> I'm having a little trouble understanding the concept behind the
> concept of
>> MS domains. ...
>
> You are not alone ;-)
>
>> ... Is there an analogy in Linux/Unix?
>
> Not really -- thank the heavens.
>
> Windows networking grew from the idea of workgroups and peer-to-peer
> networking to something more "hierarchical" with domains.
>
> Domains provide a centralized means of locating resources and
> authentication. These days domains use Active Directory and to
> maintain and administer this centralized resource/authentication info.
>
> *nix provides NIS (yellow pages, yp*) in years past, but most networks
> are moving to directory servers and LDAP as a means of providing
> centralized resource/authentication info.
>
> Active Directory also uses LDAP, but Windows networks are organized on
> principles that no rational person would ever purposefully design. Due
> to MS's old workgroup heritage and need to maintain backward
> compatibility, we now have to deal with domains, trees, forests, and
> trust relationships. Yuk!
>
> Entire multi-volume tomes have been written on domains and Active
> Directory. The Samba docs provide some good info that goes some way to
> explaining domains.
>
> If you need to hook up Linux clients to a Windows AD domain then you
> will have to do some work.
>
> With Samba, you cannot implement a complete AD solution. In Windows,
> unless you're the domain admin, you don't have any control over how the
> network is organized. You can burn up a lot of brain cells on this
> topic
>
> Here's some background links:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...adintro_10.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...r/default.mspx
> http://windows.about.com/od/tipsarchive/l/aa061399.htm
> http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art...Directory.html
>
> hth,
> prg
>