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      06-22-2007, 04:41 PM

Ok so just to get it out of the way. I know what war driving is and now
that I have my sweet laptop I want to get started. But before I do I
have a few things I need to address and get figured out. Incase it is
need to know info, my laptop is an HP dv9210us w/Vista. Yes it does
have built in wireless but I also hooked up with a Hawking Technologies
wireless USB w/removable antenna.

1) I have a Garmin GPS deal (the blue model) I got it a few years ago.
What software will I need to map and record all of the APs?

2) Because I have a Hawking Technologies wireless USB w/removable
antenna I have been looking at their 9dBi omni hi-gain antenna. I dont
mind forking out $94 for it either. But I have looked at building one
of my own to. Is it possible to build a portable omni that also gets
awsome range? Or what about those little rubber duck antennas how good
are those as far as range? Here is a link to the Hawking Technologies
antenna I was looking at. 'Hawking Technologies'
(http://tinyurl.com/2pjxj9)

3) is there anything else I am missing that im forgetting?

Thank you all for the help and keep up the great work


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      06-23-2007, 05:23 PM
crazy8 <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

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>Ok so just to get it out of the way. I know what war driving is and now
>that I have my sweet laptop I want to get started. But before I do I
>have a few things I need to address and get figured out. Incase it is
>need to know info, my laptop is an HP dv9210us w/Vista. Yes it does
>have built in wireless but I also hooked up with a Hawking Technologies
>wireless USB w/removable antenna.


Make sure you have disabled the internal wireless when using the
external. They will interfere with each other.

>1) I have a Garmin GPS deal (the blue model) I got it a few years ago.


Does it have a serial number label? If so, can you disclose the model
number so I don't have to crawl all over the Garmin web site looking
for blue colored GPS units?

>What software will I need to map and record all of the APs?


Sniffing and mapping are done seperately. You run around collecting
SSID's and lat-long locations. The data is saved to a database file.
You then feed the database to a conversion program, that is fed to a
choice of mapping programs. There are also online mapping services,
where you feed you data to the web server and it displays it for you.

Sniffers:
http://www.Netstumbler.com
http://wifihopper.com
http://www.kismetwireless.net (Linux)
http://www.seattlewireless.net/WarDrivingSoftware (list)

Converters:
http://www.sonar-security.com/sv.html

Mapping:
http://www.gwifi.net (Google wi-fi maps)
http://www.wigle.net
http://www.gpsvisualizer.com
http://wifimaps.zhrodague.net (may be dead)

There are plenty of others, but these are the ones I found in my
bookmarks pile.

>2) Because I have a Hawking Technologies wireless USB w/removable
>antenna I have been looking at their 9dBi omni hi-gain antenna. I dont
>mind forking out $94 for it either. But I have looked at building one
>of my own to. Is it possible to build a portable omni that also gets
>awsome range?


Sure, but you do NOT want monster gain for war driving. The problem
is that your GPS doesn't tell you where the access point is located.
It tells you where *YOU* are located. If you dramatically increase
the sensitivity of your sniffer with a monster antenna, the size of
the probability circle in which the access point is located also
increases. You'll see more access points, but you won't have a clue
where they're located even with GPS.

If you're looking for a specific access point, a directional antenna
such as a dish will work better. You'll get a position line showing
that the target access point is somewhere on that line. Take a few
more bearings, and the lines will cross somewhere. Where they cross,
is your target access point. There's software to do this, but I can't
seem to find any. Bug me later if you want me to dig it out.

>Or what about those little rubber duck antennas how good
>are those as far as range? Here is a link to the Hawking Technologies
>antenna I was looking at. 'Hawking Technologies'
>(http://tinyurl.com/2pjxj9)


They'll all work. Perhaps my method will give you an idea. I didn't
like the omni antenna approach because it just didn't find enough
access points. So, I installed a panel antenna (about 8dBi gain) on
the *SIDE* of my truck, and would drive around collecting data. In
the morning, I would get the right hand side of the streets. Going
back the same route in the evening, I would get the other side of the
street.

>3) is there anything else I am missing that im forgetting?


1. What you're trying to accomplish.
2. What form do you want to collect the data?
3. What do you want the final output to look like?

>Thank you all for the help and keep up the great work


Work? That's a bad word.

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