No exchange capacite left

I have been trying to get a BB connection for some 7 weeks now and my
ISP has arranged three appointments for BT to do a managed connection
from ISDN to ADSL. Each time BT has failed to turn up giving the excuse
that they could not fit in their schedule in spite of my ISP checking
prior to the time.

The third time was to have been today, but when they checked with BT it
now appears that there is no ADSL capacity left on my exchange.

Having followed this group for a while this is the first time I have
come across this. Don't really know what this means in terms of time.
Maybe I have to wait for there to be sufficient demand locally to
justify putting in this extra capacity. I assume this would also mean
laying in extra cable or are they able to re-organize what they have.

Anyone know anything more about this?

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David G
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"David G" <notreallyhere@sure> wrote in message
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> The third time was to have been today, but when they checked with BT
> it now appears that there is no ADSL capacity left on my exchange.
>
> Having followed this group for a while this is the first time I have
> come across this. Don't really know what this means in terms of time.
> Maybe I have to wait for there to be sufficient demand locally to
> justify putting in this extra capacity. I assume this would also mean
> laying in extra cable or are they able to re-organize what they have.
>
> Anyone know anything more about this?

"No exchange capacity" normally means that BT don't have any spare line
cards on the ADSL DSLAM's on the exchange.

It normally takes around 2/3 weeks for them to install new line cards...

Regards
Sunil

David G wrote:

> The third time was to have been today, but when they checked with BT it
> now appears that there is no ADSL capacity left on my exchange.
>
> Having followed this group for a while this is the first time I have
> come across this. Don't really know what this means in terms of time.
> Maybe I have to wait for there to be sufficient demand locally to
> justify putting in this extra capacity. I assume this would also mean
> laying in extra cable or are they able to re-organize what they have.
>
> Anyone know anything more about this?
>

Have a look at
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php

which gives an idea of the next DSLAM instal and a few other points
about your exchange.

Bill

Sunil Sood wrote:
>
> "No exchange capacity" normally means that BT don't have any spare line
> cards on the ADSL DSLAM's on the exchange.
>
> It normally takes around 2/3 weeks for them to install new line cards...
>
> Regards
> Sunil
>
>

Thanks Sunil

Yes that was the sort of thing that was explained to me but I assumed
from that it involved more work rather than just installing more
hardware at the exchange. Hopefully it will be as quick as you suggest.


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David G
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Bill wrote:
>
> Have a look at
> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php
>
> which gives an idea of the next DSLAM instal and a few other points
> about your exchange.
>
> Bill
>

Thanks Bill

Below is the extract from the page which shows, as I understand it,
spare capacity. Maybe because this is a Telefonica Datastream connection
it is referring to that.

Broadband availability overview
ADSL: Yes
SDSL: No
LLU services: No
Cable: No
Wireless: No
Click here for a better map!

BT Wholesale ADSL/SDSL information
ADSL status: Enabled
ADSL enable date: 13 Aug 2003
ADSL prereg: 367/300 (+55 duplicates)
SDSL status: Not enabled
SDSL enable date: -

Exchange capacity information (Help!)
VP Status: Green
VP upgrade due: None planned
Total BT DSLAM's: 1 (0 SDSL capable)
Next BT DSLAM: None planned
Data last updated: 20 October 2004, 18:01:40

Local loop unbundling presence
Bulldog: Not available
Easynet: Not available
HomeChoice: Not available
Node4: Not available
Trilogy Telecom: Not available

Wireless broadband availability
LTT Broadband: Not available
Netvigator: Not available
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David G
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Bill wrote:
>
> Have a look at
> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php
>
> which gives an idea of the next DSLAM instal and a few other points
> about your exchange.
>
> Bill
>

Thanks Bill

Below is an extract from the exchange page which, as I understand it,
shows available capacity. Maybe because it is a Telefonica datastream
connection it is referring to that.

Broadband availability overview
ADSL: Yes
SDSL: No
LLU services: No
Cable: No
Wireless: No
Click here for a better map!

BT Wholesale ADSL/SDSL information
ADSL status: Enabled
ADSL enable date: 13 Aug 2003
ADSL prereg: 367/300 (+55 duplicates)
SDSL status: Not enabled
SDSL enable date: -

Exchange capacity information (Help!)
VP Status: Green
VP upgrade due: None planned
Total BT DSLAM's: 1 (0 SDSL capable)
Next BT DSLAM: None planned
Data last updated: 20 October 2004, 18:01:40

Local loop unbundling presence
Bulldog: Not available
Easynet: Not available
HomeChoice: Not available
Node4: Not available
Trilogy Telecom: Not available

Wireless broadband availability
LTT Broadband: Not available
Netvigator: Not available

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David G
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David G <notreallyhere@sure> wrote:
> Sunil Sood wrote:
>>
>> "No exchange capacity" normally means that BT don't have any spare line
>> cards on the ADSL DSLAM's on the exchange.
>>
>> It normally takes around 2/3 weeks for them to install new line cards...
>>
>> Regards
>> Sunil

> Thanks Sunil

> Yes that was the sort of thing that was explained to me but I assumed
> from that it involved more work rather than just installing more
> hardware at the exchange. Hopefully it will be as quick as you suggest.

There will always be some churn from users disconnecting their ADSL.
If your order happens to hit just then, then you might get lucky.

David G wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>
>>
>> Have a look at
>> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php
>>
>> which gives an idea of the next DSLAM instal and a few other points
>> about your exchange.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> Below is the extract from the page which shows, as I understand it,
> spare capacity. Maybe because this is a Telefonica Datastream connection
> it is referring to that.
>

> Exchange capacity information (Help!)
> VP Status: Green
> VP upgrade due: None planned
> Total BT DSLAM's: 1 (0 SDSL capable)
> Next BT DSLAM: None planned
> Data last updated: 20 October 2004, 18:01:40
>

I agree that on the face of it there seems no ADSL provision problem.
The VP 'Green' means there is plenty of data capacity from the exchange
to the world, and they are not planning to put in a second DSLAM.

So I wonder what is missing for you, that can be fixed in 3 weeks ? Group ?

Bill

On 29 Oct 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Bill wrote:

>David G wrote:

>> Bill wrote:
>> Maybe because this is a Telefonica Datastream connection

>So I wonder what is missing for you, that can be fixed in 3 weeks ? Group ?

When Clara was ready to trial its 1000 kbps service for a limited number
of existing customers (I only saw the news posts, I have never had ADSL on
Claranet, personally), there was a hiatus when someone let down several of
the triallists, by ceasing their active 500 kbps service prior to anything
being available from Telefonica at their specific exchange.

Datastream is a different type of service, and each of the bigger network
suppliers must arrange capacity from your exchange (and increase capacity
when there are more users on a specific exchange, or all suffer contention
and get increasingly unhappy). Claranet has previously used telecom firms
which don't have nationwide coverage (with dial-up they had Freetime using
a couple of prefixes, 1664 and 1690 but initially not available at all the
exchanges). Telefonica seems the common denominator in this, perhaps they
are expanding their network to all exchanges more slowly: or "on demand" !

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"Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I agree that on the face of it there seems no ADSL provision problem.
> The VP 'Green' means there is plenty of data capacity from the
> exchange to the world, and they are not planning to put in a second DSLAM.
>
> So I wonder what is missing for you, that can be fixed in 3 weeks ? Group
> ?

If BT are using the term "No exchange capacity" it will mean that there are
no spare line cards on the DSLAM in this case.

They are all either in use or have been "reserved" by ISP's and it will take
BT a few weeks to install additional cards.

Regards
Sunil