newbie's adsl hardware

Goodbye to AOL dial-up and hello to Pipex ADSL!
I'm finally upgarding to ADSL and need some advice on the hardware i shall
require.

With my dial-up, i have a longish telephone extension cable running from the
main BT socket box (downstairs) to my room (upstairs).
This extension cable is 10m in length - just a cheap extension cable.
I'm planning on an internal ADSL PCI modem - the MRI IDSL01.
Can i simply plug the modem into the existing extension cable? (RJ11 plug
into the modem and RJ45 plug into the extension)
Does the ADSL modem require an extension cable that is maybe superior in
quality to my existing cheap extension cable? (I'm thinking about line noise
and cable quality)
I shall put a microfilter in the main BT socket box (downstairs) and so
would need an adaptor (RJ45 socket to RJ11 plug i think) to connect the
extension cable to the ADSL port on the microfilter.

Will the cheap extension with an adaptor on each end be likely to give me
problems??
Should i be looking at a superior quality extension lead - one that's
designed for ADSL usage?

Any help much appreciated.

Martin.

(Counting down to activation day 11/12/03!)

:-)

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:35:53 -0000, "Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Goodbye to AOL dial-up and hello to Pipex ADSL!
>I'm finally upgarding to ADSL and need some advice on the hardware i shall
>require.
>
>With my dial-up, i have a longish telephone extension cable running from the
>main BT socket box (downstairs) to my room (upstairs).
>This extension cable is 10m in length - just a cheap extension cable.
>I'm planning on an internal ADSL PCI modem - the MRI IDSL01.
>Can i simply plug the modem into the existing extension cable? (RJ11 plug
>into the modem and RJ45 plug into the extension)
>Does the ADSL modem require an extension cable that is maybe superior in
>quality to my existing cheap extension cable? (I'm thinking about line noise
>and cable quality)
>I shall put a microfilter in the main BT socket box (downstairs) and so
>would need an adaptor (RJ45 socket to RJ11 plug i think) to connect the
>extension cable to the ADSL port on the microfilter.
>
>Will the cheap extension with an adaptor on each end be likely to give me
>problems??
>Should i be looking at a superior quality extension lead - one that's
>designed for ADSL usage?
>
>Any help much appreciated.
>
>Martin.
>
>(Counting down to activation day 11/12/03!)
>
>:-)
>


I converted from ntl dial up to Pipex 1Mb last month and it is just
brilliant.

I went to a local PC shop and bought a purpose made ADSL cable made
by Belkin. Guy in the shop said my old phone extension cable may work
but the ADSL cable would give better results. It was £12 for a 15
meter cable that is slightly less thick than a CAT 5 network cable. It
is a coiled, woven steel-looking cable encased in a clear plastic
sheath and looks the business. Well worth the dosh.

Here is a picture of it
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=1 77&pcount=&Product_Id=71505&Section.Section_Path=% 2FCables%2FModem%2Fct_Id>




Filthy Rich
Music House

"Filthy Rich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:35:53 -0000, "Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Goodbye to AOL dial-up and hello to Pipex ADSL!
> >I'm finally upgarding to ADSL and need some advice on the hardware i
shall
> >require.
> >
> >With my dial-up, i have a longish telephone extension cable running from
the
> >main BT socket box (downstairs) to my room (upstairs).
> >This extension cable is 10m in length - just a cheap extension cable.
> >I'm planning on an internal ADSL PCI modem - the MRI IDSL01.
> >Can i simply plug the modem into the existing extension cable? (RJ11 plug
> >into the modem and RJ45 plug into the extension)
> >Does the ADSL modem require an extension cable that is maybe superior in
> >quality to my existing cheap extension cable? (I'm thinking about line
noise
> >and cable quality)
> >I shall put a microfilter in the main BT socket box (downstairs) and so
> >would need an adaptor (RJ45 socket to RJ11 plug i think) to connect the
> >extension cable to the ADSL port on the microfilter.
> >
> >Will the cheap extension with an adaptor on each end be likely to give me
> >problems??
> >Should i be looking at a superior quality extension lead - one that's
> >designed for ADSL usage?
> >
> >Any help much appreciated.
> >
> >Martin.
> >
> >(Counting down to activation day 11/12/03!)
> >
> >:-)
> >
>
>
> I converted from ntl dial up to Pipex 1Mb last month and it is just
> brilliant.
>
> I went to a local PC shop and bought a purpose made ADSL cable made
> by Belkin. Guy in the shop said my old phone extension cable may work
> but the ADSL cable would give better results. It was £12 for a 15
> meter cable that is slightly less thick than a CAT 5 network cable. It
> is a coiled, woven steel-looking cable encased in a clear plastic
> sheath and looks the business. Well worth the dosh.
>
> Here is a picture of it
>
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...=&Section_Id=1
77&pcount=&Product_Id=71505&Section.Section_Path=% 2FCables%2FModem%2Fct_Id>
>
>
>
>
> Filthy Rich
> Music House

Thanks for the reply.

I've just been into town and had a look in Dixon's - they're selling Belkin
High Speed Internet cables.
A 9.2m cable for £12.99. Gold plated contacts and a superior construction
than standard telephone extension cables.

Sounds like a good investment.

Martin.

Martin wrote:

> Goodbye to AOL dial-up and hello to Pipex ADSL!

Nice to see you have made the step to the grown up internet....

It was on Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:51:43 +0000, just as I was halfway through a
large jam doughnut, that Zapp Brannigan wrote:

> Martin wrote:
>
>> Goodbye to AOL dial-up and hello to Pipex ADSL!
>
> Nice to see you have made the step to the grown up internet....

Now all he has to do, is get AOHell out of his machine....

--
Linux User #: 305646.
SuSE Linux Pro 9.0

In message <bqskub$25oo5k$(E-Mail Removed)>, Martin
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>> I converted from ntl dial up to Pipex 1Mb last month and it is just
>> brilliant.
>>
>> I went to a local PC shop and bought a purpose made ADSL cable made
>> by Belkin. Guy in the shop said my old phone extension cable may work
>> but the ADSL cable would give better results. It was £12 for a 15
>> meter cable that is slightly less thick than a CAT 5 network cable. It
>> is a coiled, woven steel-looking cable encased in a clear plastic
>> sheath and looks the business. Well worth the dosh.
>>
>> Here is a picture of it
>>
>http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...=&Section_Id=1
>77&pcount=&Product_Id=71505&Section.Section_Path= %2FCables%2FModem%2Fct_Id>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Filthy Rich
You'd have to be to buy Belkin.
>> Music House
>
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>I've just been into town and had a look in Dixon's - they're selling Belkin
>High Speed Internet cables.
>A 9.2m cable for £12.99. Gold plated contacts and a superior construction
>than standard telephone extension cables.

>
>Sounds like a good investment.
Remember the saying,
There's a good deal every time with a product bought from Dixons.
For Dixons
>Martin.
>
>
>
>
Why don't you try it with the lead you already have before you go out
buying expensive fool's gold products.
--
Clint

> Why don't you try it with the lead you already have before you go out
> buying expensive fool's gold products.

...After all, the other 2 miles of line (or whatever) before it got to
your premises is probably plain copper / soldered joints.

Perhaps a few microns of gold on a pair of contacts will magically sort
out all the other nuances of the network before it gets to you :-p

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"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> > Why don't you try it with the lead you already have before you go out
> > buying expensive fool's gold products.
>
> ..After all, the other 2 miles of line (or whatever) before it got to
> your premises is probably plain copper / soldered joints.
>
> Perhaps a few microns of gold on a pair of contacts will magically sort
> out all the other nuances of the network before it gets to you :-p
>
> --


So maybe the high-speed cable is overkill.....

I'll try my existing extension and perhaps save myself a few quid then.

Thanks for all your comments.

Martin.

In message <bqskub$25oo5k$(E-Mail Removed)>, Martin
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>> I went to a local PC shop and bought a purpose made ADSL cable made
>> by Belkin. Guy in the shop said my old phone extension cable may work
>> but the ADSL cable would give better results. It was £12 for a 15
>> meter cable that is slightly less thick than a CAT 5 network cable. It
>> is a coiled, woven steel-looking cable encased in a clear plastic
>> sheath and looks the business. Well worth the dosh.
[]
>
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>I've just been into town and had a look in Dixon's - they're selling Belkin
>High Speed Internet cables.
>A 9.2m cable for £12.99. Gold plated contacts and a superior construction
>than standard telephone extension cables.
>
>Sounds like a good investment.

When I moved my kit to a different room I picked up a DIY telephone
extension kit from Hypervalue for under a fiver. It made no difference
to my connection speed, which is excellent. If you put a gold tip on a
10 foot copper rod it's still essentially a copper rod. Spend the money
on something more worthwhile, like a good quality filter.
--
Steve Thomas

In article <bqule1$23cb4r$(E-Mail Removed)>, Martin wrote:
> > > Why don't you try it with the lead you already have before you go out
> > > buying expensive fool's gold products.
> >
> > ..After all, the other 2 miles of line (or whatever) before it got to
> > your premises is probably plain copper / soldered joints.
> >
> > Perhaps a few microns of gold on a pair of contacts will magically sort
> > out all the other nuances of the network before it gets to you :-p
> >
> > --
>
> So maybe the high-speed cable is overkill.....
>
> I'll try my existing extension and perhaps save myself a few quid then.
>
> Thanks for all your comments.

You will probably find that many of the places that sell expensive "high
speed broadband cables" with gold plated contacts all wrapped up in fancy
packaging also sell hi-fi equipment. That ought to be a clue. The hi-fi
industry is notorious for selling overpriced gimmicks to ignoramuses who
then claim to be able to hear a difference rather than admit they've been
conned.

The telephone cable to my house approaches from a wooden pole across the
road, then down the side of the house, through the brickwork and into a
prehistoric paint-splattered junction box near the front door. From there,
about 5 metres of some very thin round sectioned cable is laid under the
carpet to the socket in the front room. The parts of it that I've seen don't
appear to be neatly routed round the edge of the room, but just snake across
the floor under the carpet, where it has been walked on every day since I
moved into the house about 10 years ago. My own system of extension cables
plugs into this and goes all over the house, some of it running parallel to
ethernet cables, power cables, loudspeaker cables, SCART cables and goodness
knows what. I have a filter unit I bought in Maplins plugged into the main
socket and about 5 metres of very ordinary modem cable going to the ADSL
box, and the other side of the filter going to everything else. My dial-up
modem is still plugged in, as is a cordless phone base unit through one of
those automatic re-dialler boxes. The cable outside my house must be a few
kilometres long, and possibly travels some of its length underground,
probably in multicore bundles with many others.

The good news is that everything works perfectly - phone, dial-up and ADSL.
Whatever this motley collection of cable looks like, the electrons don't
seem to care.

Rod.