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      01-12-2007, 04:49 PM
I have some question on providing web mail access to an internal exchange
server and network isolation aspect of the web access and FTP.



I will first go over the physical environment, desired result and finally
the questions

1.. environment
1.. 1 Cisco 1811/k9 box with dual wan connection for internal staff (6
to 8 person) use to access internet and RDP from outside
2.. Another router with dual wan probably LinkSys can be available for
access by external contractors (about 4 to 15) to ftp, webmail somehow
provided directly or indirectly by Exchange server
3.. Exchange server and files server boxes are Intel Xenon 3Ghz dual
core 667MHZ ACT
4.. Exchange server pulls mail down from an email ISP via pop3 and send
mail via SMTP to ISP
i. 3
SMTP gateway available: 1 from email ISP, 2 from Internet provider to the
Cisco box

ii. Can
have two NICs if needed

iii. Can
server FTP to contractors if that is best way

iv. There
will be an email filter server/appliance between the Cisco and Exchange
server



2.. Desired result
1.. Separate IP for public access apart from staff access
2.. Route NDR report through second router
3.. Route other outgoing email via Cisco router


3.. Questions
1.. What is the best way implement web access to exchange server from
the internet?
2.. What is the best way to implement the network so there is isolation
of web and FTP traffic from internal network?
3.. Should exchange be on separate network from the file server and
workstations?
i. If so
how to achieve fail over duty for the file server and DC if ever needed







The number of users involved is rather small although the 6 to 8 internal
staff members are heavy email users dealing with about a couple of thousands
email a day


 
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      01-12-2007, 06:17 PM
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:49:55 -0700, "gs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have some question on providing web mail access to an internal exchange
>server and network isolation aspect of the web access and FTP.
>
>
>
>I will first go over the physical environment, desired result and finally
>the questions
>
> 1.. environment
> 1.. 1 Cisco 1811/k9 box with dual wan connection for internal staff (6
>to 8 person) use to access internet and RDP from outside
> 2.. Another router with dual wan probably LinkSys can be available for
>access by external contractors (about 4 to 15) to ftp, webmail somehow
>provided directly or indirectly by Exchange server
> 3.. Exchange server and files server boxes are Intel Xenon 3Ghz dual
>core 667MHZ ACT
> 4.. Exchange server pulls mail down from an email ISP via pop3 and send
>mail via SMTP to ISP
> i. 3
>SMTP gateway available: 1 from email ISP, 2 from Internet provider to the
>Cisco box
>
> ii. Can
>have two NICs if needed
>
> iii. Can
>server FTP to contractors if that is best way
>
> iv. There
>will be an email filter server/appliance between the Cisco and Exchange
>server
>
>
>
> 2.. Desired result
> 1.. Separate IP for public access apart from staff access
> 2.. Route NDR report through second router
> 3.. Route other outgoing email via Cisco router
>
>
> 3.. Questions
> 1.. What is the best way implement web access to exchange server from
>the internet?


Allow the firewall to pass TCP443 to the Exchange Server and configure
Form Based Authentication on the server.

> 2.. What is the best way to implement the network so there is isolation
>of web and FTP traffic from internal network?


There is no right way or wrong way. You need to sit down yourself and
work it out in a sensible manner. The internal users need to be on the
same segment as the Exchange server and the file server. If you have a
web server you can put that into a DMZ if you see fit with the
equipment.


> 3.. Should exchange be on separate network from the file server and
>workstations?


No. The users, the Exchange and the DC should be on the same network
and that network should be firewalled from both the Internet and also
any external facing HTTP (TCP 80) web sites that you have.

> i. If so
>how to achieve fail over duty for the file server and DC if ever needed
>
>
>The number of users involved is rather small although the 6 to 8 internal
>staff members are heavy email users dealing with about a couple of thousands
>email a day
>


 
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      01-12-2007, 10:02 PM
thank you very much, Mark!

As for answer for question 2,
Should web server and ftp server be physically different from the Exchange
server box?
if so, is VM good enough to handle for the small number of users?
I suspect less than 10 users email total , likely only 4 at any given time,
less then 5 FTP user, likely only 2 simultaneous users and likely off hour

3. so external HTTPS traffic should also be firewalled, right?



"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:49:55 -0700, "gs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I have some question on providing web mail access to an internal exchange
>>server and network isolation aspect of the web access and FTP.
>>
>>
>>
>>I will first go over the physical environment, desired result and finally
>>the questions
>>
>> 1.. environment
>> 1.. 1 Cisco 1811/k9 box with dual wan connection for internal staff (6
>>to 8 person) use to access internet and RDP from outside
>> 2.. Another router with dual wan probably LinkSys can be available for
>>access by external contractors (about 4 to 15) to ftp, webmail somehow
>>provided directly or indirectly by Exchange server
>> 3.. Exchange server and files server boxes are Intel Xenon 3Ghz dual
>>core 667MHZ ACT
>> 4.. Exchange server pulls mail down from an email ISP via pop3 and
>> send
>>mail via SMTP to ISP
>> i. 3
>>SMTP gateway available: 1 from email ISP, 2 from Internet provider to the
>>Cisco box
>>
>> ii. Can
>>have two NICs if needed
>>
>> iii. Can
>>server FTP to contractors if that is best way
>>
>> iv. There
>>will be an email filter server/appliance between the Cisco and Exchange
>>server
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.. Desired result
>> 1.. Separate IP for public access apart from staff access
>> 2.. Route NDR report through second router
>> 3.. Route other outgoing email via Cisco router
>>
>>
>> 3.. Questions
>> 1.. What is the best way implement web access to exchange server from
>>the internet?

>
> Allow the firewall to pass TCP443 to the Exchange Server and configure
> Form Based Authentication on the server.
>
>> 2.. What is the best way to implement the network so there is
>> isolation
>>of web and FTP traffic from internal network?

>
> There is no right way or wrong way. You need to sit down yourself and
> work it out in a sensible manner. The internal users need to be on the
> same segment as the Exchange server and the file server. If you have a
> web server you can put that into a DMZ if you see fit with the
> equipment.
>
>
>> 3.. Should exchange be on separate network from the file server and
>>workstations?

>
> No. The users, the Exchange and the DC should be on the same network
> and that network should be firewalled from both the Internet and also
> any external facing HTTP (TCP 80) web sites that you have.
>
>> i. If
>> so
>>how to achieve fail over duty for the file server and DC if ever needed
>>
>>
>>The number of users involved is rather small although the 6 to 8 internal
>>staff members are heavy email users dealing with about a couple of
>>thousands
>>email a day
>>

>



 
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      01-14-2007, 06:47 PM
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:02:10 -0700, "gs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>thank you very much, Mark!
>
>As for answer for question 2,
> Should web server and ftp server be physically different from the Exchange
>server box?


Ideally, yes.

> if so, is VM good enough to handle for the small number of users?
> I suspect less than 10 users email total , likely only 4 at any given time,
> less then 5 FTP user, likely only 2 simultaneous users and likely off hour
>

VM would probably be ok, but it's all down to your traffic.

>3. so external HTTPS traffic should also be firewalled, right?


Everything should be behind a firewall and you will allow TCP 443
through to the Exchang server.
>
>
>
>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:49:55 -0700, "gs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I have some question on providing web mail access to an internal exchange
>>>server and network isolation aspect of the web access and FTP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I will first go over the physical environment, desired result and finally
>>>the questions
>>>
>>> 1.. environment
>>> 1.. 1 Cisco 1811/k9 box with dual wan connection for internal staff (6
>>>to 8 person) use to access internet and RDP from outside
>>> 2.. Another router with dual wan probably LinkSys can be available for
>>>access by external contractors (about 4 to 15) to ftp, webmail somehow
>>>provided directly or indirectly by Exchange server
>>> 3.. Exchange server and files server boxes are Intel Xenon 3Ghz dual
>>>core 667MHZ ACT
>>> 4.. Exchange server pulls mail down from an email ISP via pop3 and
>>> send
>>>mail via SMTP to ISP
>>> i. 3
>>>SMTP gateway available: 1 from email ISP, 2 from Internet provider to the
>>>Cisco box
>>>
>>> ii. Can
>>>have two NICs if needed
>>>
>>> iii. Can
>>>server FTP to contractors if that is best way
>>>
>>> iv. There
>>>will be an email filter server/appliance between the Cisco and Exchange
>>>server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.. Desired result
>>> 1.. Separate IP for public access apart from staff access
>>> 2.. Route NDR report through second router
>>> 3.. Route other outgoing email via Cisco router
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.. Questions
>>> 1.. What is the best way implement web access to exchange server from
>>>the internet?

>>
>> Allow the firewall to pass TCP443 to the Exchange Server and configure
>> Form Based Authentication on the server.
>>
>>> 2.. What is the best way to implement the network so there is
>>> isolation
>>>of web and FTP traffic from internal network?

>>
>> There is no right way or wrong way. You need to sit down yourself and
>> work it out in a sensible manner. The internal users need to be on the
>> same segment as the Exchange server and the file server. If you have a
>> web server you can put that into a DMZ if you see fit with the
>> equipment.
>>
>>
>>> 3.. Should exchange be on separate network from the file server and
>>>workstations?

>>
>> No. The users, the Exchange and the DC should be on the same network
>> and that network should be firewalled from both the Internet and also
>> any external facing HTTP (TCP 80) web sites that you have.
>>
>>> i. If
>>> so
>>>how to achieve fail over duty for the file server and DC if ever needed
>>>
>>>
>>>The number of users involved is rather small although the 6 to 8 internal
>>>staff members are heavy email users dealing with about a couple of
>>>thousands
>>>email a day
>>>

>>

>


 
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