Newbie question on routers.

For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?

Regards,
John.

"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on the
> wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?

I've had port forwarding working on my DG834GT: as a test I ran EasyPHP,
MySql and a web server whose name escapes me (how embarrassing) on my main
PC and set the router to route port 80 traffic from the public WAN to that
PC's IP address. I then dialled in from my laptop on a different ISP (so as
to come in from the public side) and when I browsed to my router's public IP
address got the web site that I'd set up on the other PC.

I forget the precise details but I remember that it just worked, without any
tweaking, cursing or threats to disembowel the router! And that was using
wireless to the web server PC.

If you are using port forwarding, you will need to make sure that the PC in
question has a fixed IP address, either by setting that IP statically on the
PC and excluding it from the router's DHCP or else by using the address
reservation facility on the router so DHCP always allocates the same address
to the PC.

Mortimer wrote:

>
> I've had port forwarding working on my DG834GT: as a test I ran EasyPHP,
> MySql and a web server whose name escapes me (how embarrassing) on my main
> PC and set the router to route port 80 traffic from the public WAN to that
> PC's IP address. I then dialled in from my laptop on a different ISP (so as
> to come in from the public side) and when I browsed to my router's public IP
> address got the web site that I'd set up on the other PC.
>
> I forget the precise details but I remember that it just worked, without any
> tweaking, cursing or threats to disembowel the router! And that was using
> wireless to the web server PC.
>
> If you are using port forwarding, you will need to make sure that the PC in
> question has a fixed IP address, either by setting that IP statically on the
> PC and excluding it from the router's DHCP or else by using the address
> reservation facility on the router so DHCP always allocates the same address
> to the PC.
>
>
Many thanks for taking the time to post, but being a complete newbie to
networking, I'm afraid I'm not sure how to proceed in making mine work.
Any tips in plain English would be fine please.

Regards,
John.

"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mortimer wrote:
>
>>
>> I've had port forwarding working on my DG834GT: as a test I ran EasyPHP,
>> MySql and a web server whose name escapes me (how embarrassing) on my
>> main PC and set the router to route port 80 traffic from the public WAN
>> to that PC's IP address. I then dialled in from my laptop on a different
>> ISP (so as to come in from the public side) and when I browsed to my
>> router's public IP address got the web site that I'd set up on the other
>> PC.
>>
>> I forget the precise details but I remember that it just worked, without
>> any tweaking, cursing or threats to disembowel the router! And that was
>> using wireless to the web server PC.
>>
>> If you are using port forwarding, you will need to make sure that the PC
>> in question has a fixed IP address, either by setting that IP statically
>> on the PC and excluding it from the router's DHCP or else by using the
>> address reservation facility on the router so DHCP always allocates the
>> same address to the PC.
> Many thanks for taking the time to post, but being a complete newbie to
> networking, I'm afraid I'm not sure how to proceed in making mine work.
> Any tips in plain English would be fine please.

No problem.

1. Browse to the router using the router's IP address - by default,
192.168.0.1
2. Default username and password are admin and admin or admin and password
(I forget which) unless you've changed them.
3. In the blue menu bar down the left hand side, select Firewall Rules
4. Under Inbound Services:
a) Add
b) Service: select the appropriate port such as HTTP (80)
c) Action = Allow always
d) Send to LAN Server: fill in the IP address of the PC that you want to
route public traffic to (*)
e) WAN users = Any (start/finish - leave blank)
f) Log = Always (diagnostic at least until you've got it working)
g) Apply
h) Tick "Enable"
i) Apply

(*) Attached Devices menu will give you this value

This will get things going well enough to test that it works. To do the job
properly, you need to allocate the PC a permanent IP address:

1. LAN IP Setup
2. Address Reservation
3. Add
4. In the reservation table, select the radio button (circular blob to left
of # column) for the PC that you want to route to
5. Change the IP address if required; otherwise accept default
6. Add

Reboot PC if you've not selected the default IP.

(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
> the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?

No. Wired and wireless are treated the same on that particular router.

What difficulty are you having?
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Regards
Jon

(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> Many thanks for taking the time to post, but being a complete newbie to
> networking, I'm afraid I'm not sure how to proceed in making mine work.
> Any tips in plain English would be fine please.

To forward a port successfully you need to know the LAN side IP address
of the PC that you want to forward the port to.

To save me writing out paragraphs and paragraphs, can you tell us what
knowledge you do have? You clearly know what "port forwarding is", so do
you know what is meant by LAN IP, WAN IP, DHCP, fixed IP?

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Regards
Jon

Jon wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
>> the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
>> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
>> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?
>
> No. Wired and wireless are treated the same on that particular router.
>
> What difficulty are you having?

I have managed to add the settings that Mortimer suggested (thanks
Mortimer) but it appears the ports are still not working. On just 1 PC,
I'm trying to port forward the necessary ports for emule, which is 4662
TCP and 4674 UDP, but emule tells me through their test, that it is
still failing.

John.

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> Jon wrote:
> > (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> >> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
> >> the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
> >> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
> >> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?
> >
> > No. Wired and wireless are treated the same on that particular router.
> >
> > What difficulty are you having?
>
> I have managed to add the settings that Mortimer suggested (thanks
> Mortimer) but it appears the ports are still not working. On just 1 PC,
> I'm trying to port forward the necessary ports for emule, which is 4662
> TCP and 4674 UDP, but emule tells me through their test, that it is
> still failing.

There could well be something an the PC itself blocking it. Windows
firewall, some antivirus stuff etc.
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Regards
Jon

Jon wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> Jon wrote:
>>> (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>>>> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
>>>> the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
>>>> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
>>>> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?
>>> No. Wired and wireless are treated the same on that particular router.
>>>
>>> What difficulty are you having?
>> I have managed to add the settings that Mortimer suggested (thanks
>> Mortimer) but it appears the ports are still not working. On just 1 PC,
>> I'm trying to port forward the necessary ports for emule, which is 4662
>> TCP and 4674 UDP, but emule tells me through their test, that it is
>> still failing.
>
> There could well be something an the PC itself blocking it. Windows
> firewall, some antivirus stuff etc.

I've turned them all off to test the ports.

John.

(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> Jon wrote:
> > (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> >> Jon wrote:
> >>> (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> >>>> For reasons that I won't go into, I have to run our 3 PC's at home on
> >>>> the wireless side of a Netgear DG834GT router. I am trying to do port
> >>>> forwarding on the router with no success. Is this because it's only
> >>>> possible to port forward using the wired Ethernet port on the router?
> >>> No. Wired and wireless are treated the same on that particular router.
> >>>
> >>> What difficulty are you having?
> >> I have managed to add the settings that Mortimer suggested (thanks
> >> Mortimer) but it appears the ports are still not working. On just 1 PC,
> >> I'm trying to port forward the necessary ports for emule, which is 4662
> >> TCP and 4674 UDP, but emule tells me through their test, that it is
> >> still failing.
> >
> > There could well be something an the PC itself blocking it. Windows
> > firewall, some antivirus stuff etc.
>
> I've turned them all off to test the ports.

Try forwarding the port to another PC and re-testing. That will tell you
for sure if something is blocking it or if you just haven't set it up on
the router correctly.
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Regards
Jon