Newbie Needs help with LAN set up

I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
I also have two computers..
My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
communicate with the internet.

I want them to be able to talk to each other.
One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.

How do I do this?
Can it be done with what I have.
Both computers run win xp pro.


thanks in advance.

Hemlock

Hemlock tree wrote:
> I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
> I also have two computers..
> My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
> communicate with the internet.
>
> I want them to be able to talk to each other.
> One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
> The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>
> How do I do this?
> Can it be done with what I have.
> Both computers run win xp pro.
>
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> Hemlock
The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is irrelevant,
so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address in
the same subnet.

Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
same subnet.

1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them on
the same one).
2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing for
Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
select Properties).
3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click the
Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
TCP/IP' radio button.
4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
running OK.

You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.

To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
and password that matches a login/password on the other.

Jerry,

First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
I tried what you said.
When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
I have shared one drive one each computer.
My workgroup names are the same.

I sat up both computers the same way.
I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
I was hoping to see the other computer.

When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
computers and transfer data.

Currently no go.

What do you suggest for a next action(s).
How can I(we) trouble shoot this?

thanks,

Hemlock



On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Hemlock tree wrote:
>> I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
>> I also have two computers..
>> My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
>> communicate with the internet.
>>
>> I want them to be able to talk to each other.
>> One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
>> The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>>
>> How do I do this?
>> Can it be done with what I have.
>> Both computers run win xp pro.
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance.
>>
>> Hemlock
>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is irrelevant,
>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address in
>the same subnet.
>
>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
>same subnet.
>
>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them on
>the same one).
>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing for
>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
>select Properties).
>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click the
>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
>TCP/IP' radio button.
>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
>running OK.
>
>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
>
>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
>and password that matches a login/password on the other.

Hemlock tree wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
> I tried what you said.
> When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
> I have shared one drive one each computer.
> My workgroup names are the same.
>
> I sat up both computers the same way.
> I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
> I was hoping to see the other computer.
>
> When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
> computers and transfer data.
>
> Currently no go.
>
> What do you suggest for a next action(s).
> How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
>
> thanks,
>
> Hemlock
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hemlock tree wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
>>>I also have two computers..
>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
>>>communicate with the internet.
>>>
>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>>>
>>>How do I do this?
>>>Can it be done with what I have.
>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
>>>
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>Hemlock
>>
>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is irrelevant,
>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address in
>>the same subnet.
>>
>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
>>same subnet.
>>
>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them on
>>the same one).
>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing for
>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
>>select Properties).
>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click the
>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
>>TCP/IP' radio button.
>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
>>running OK.
>>
>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
>>
>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
>
>
Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?

If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?

Jerry,

Neither worked.
I did a command line ping to the addresses 2x both worked.
But the ping to the names of the computers failed to work.
So I can ping the numbered address e.g. 192.168.2.86 and 192.168.2.2
but the computer names fail.

Does any of this depend on MS services I might have turned off or
disabled?

Hemlock






On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:26:48 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Hemlock tree wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
>> I tried what you said.
>> When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
>> I have shared one drive one each computer.
>> My workgroup names are the same.
>>
>> I sat up both computers the same way.
>> I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
>> I was hoping to see the other computer.
>>
>> When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
>> computers and transfer data.
>>
>> Currently no go.
>>
>> What do you suggest for a next action(s).
>> How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Hemlock
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hemlock tree wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
>>>>I also have two computers..
>>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
>>>>communicate with the internet.
>>>>
>>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
>>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
>>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>>>>
>>>>How do I do this?
>>>>Can it be done with what I have.
>>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>Hemlock
>>>
>>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is irrelevant,
>>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address in
>>>the same subnet.
>>>
>>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
>>>same subnet.
>>>
>>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
>>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them on
>>>the same one).
>>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing for
>>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
>>>select Properties).
>>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
>>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click the
>>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
>>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
>>>TCP/IP' radio button.
>>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
>>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
>>>running OK.
>>>
>>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
>>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
>>>
>>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
>>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
>>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
>>
>>
>Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
>\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?
>
>If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?

Be sure your Server, Workstation, Computer Browser, TCP NetBIOS Helper
services are running.

"Hemlock tree" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Jerry,
>
> Neither worked.
> I did a command line ping to the addresses 2x both worked.
> But the ping to the names of the computers failed to work.
> So I can ping the numbered address e.g. 192.168.2.86 and 192.168.2.2
> but the computer names fail.
>
> Does any of this depend on MS services I might have turned off or
> disabled?
>
> Hemlock
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:26:48 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >Hemlock tree wrote:
> >> Jerry,
> >>
> >> First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
> >> I tried what you said.
> >> When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
> >> I have shared one drive one each computer.
> >> My workgroup names are the same.
> >>
> >> I sat up both computers the same way.
> >> I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
> >> I was hoping to see the other computer.
> >>
> >> When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
> >> computers and transfer data.
> >>
> >> Currently no go.
> >>
> >> What do you suggest for a next action(s).
> >> How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> Hemlock
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hemlock tree wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
> >>>>I also have two computers..
> >>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
> >>>>communicate with the internet.
> >>>>
> >>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
> >>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
> >>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
> >>>>
> >>>>How do I do this?
> >>>>Can it be done with what I have.
> >>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hemlock
> >>>
> >>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is
irrelevant,
> >>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address
in
> >>>the same subnet.
> >>>
> >>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
> >>>same subnet.
> >>>
> >>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
> >>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them
on
> >>>the same one).
> >>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing
for
> >>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
> >>>select Properties).
> >>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
> >>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click
the
> >>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
> >>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
> >>>TCP/IP' radio button.
> >>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
> >>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
> >>>running OK.
> >>>
> >>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
> >>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
> >>>
> >>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
> >>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
> >>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
> >>
> >>
> >Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
> >\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?
> >
> >If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?
>
>

Hemlock tree wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Neither worked.
> I did a command line ping to the addresses 2x both worked.
> But the ping to the names of the computers failed to work.
> So I can ping the numbered address e.g. 192.168.2.86 and 192.168.2.2
> but the computer names fail.
>
> Does any of this depend on MS services I might have turned off or
> disabled?
>
> Hemlock
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:26:48 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hemlock tree wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
>>>I tried what you said.
>>>When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
>>>I have shared one drive one each computer.
>>>My workgroup names are the same.
>>>
>>>I sat up both computers the same way.
>>>I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
>>>I was hoping to see the other computer.
>>>
>>>When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
>>>computers and transfer data.
>>>
>>>Currently no go.
>>>
>>>What do you suggest for a next action(s).
>>>How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Hemlock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hemlock tree wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
>>>>>I also have two computers..
>>>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
>>>>>communicate with the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
>>>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
>>>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>>>>>
>>>>>How do I do this?
>>>>>Can it be done with what I have.
>>>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hemlock
>>>>
>>>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is irrelevant,
>>>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address in
>>>>the same subnet.
>>>>
>>>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
>>>>same subnet.
>>>>
>>>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
>>>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them on
>>>>the same one).
>>>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing for
>>>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
>>>>select Properties).
>>>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
>>>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click the
>>>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
>>>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
>>>>TCP/IP' radio button.
>>>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
>>>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
>>>>running OK.
>>>>
>>>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
>>>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
>>>>
>>>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
>>>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
>>>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
>>>
>>>
>>Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
>>\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?
>>
>>If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?
>
>
>
If you can see the computers by IP address but not by name, your node
type may be set improperly. The node type must be set in the registry.

There are four node types:
1: broadcast only
2: WINS only
4: broadcast then WINS
8: WINS then broadcast

If the nodetype is set to 2 (of if no nodetype is set and the
DHCPNodeType is set to 2) and if there is no WINS server on your
network, the systems can't see the network.

Start|run|regedit

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE|SYSTEM|CurrentControlSet|Servic es|NetBT|Parameters

If there is a NodeType and it is set to 2, change it to a 4 or 8.

If there is no NodeType, create one and set to 4 or 8.

Joe,

Thanks for the reply.
I missed the server service, turned it on.
No difference though.

I can ping either computer ok.
Can't find the name.
When I go to my network places I get an empty formatted screen.
I don't even see my local computer on the network.
computer names are up down
workgroup is WORKGROUP
just to keep it simple.

I appreciate the help.

Still lost and haven't got it yet.
The down computer shows a shows a wirekess network.
The up computer shows none.

I have run set up home or small office network a dozen times trying to
get it to allow me to connect.

Hemlock




On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:09:53 -0500, "Joe Hayes" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Be sure your Server, Workstation, Computer Browser, TCP NetBIOS Helper
>services are running.
>
>"Hemlock tree" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Jerry,
>>
>> Neither worked.
>> I did a command line ping to the addresses 2x both worked.
>> But the ping to the names of the computers failed to work.
>> So I can ping the numbered address e.g. 192.168.2.86 and 192.168.2.2
>> but the computer names fail.
>>
>> Does any of this depend on MS services I might have turned off or
>> disabled?
>>
>> Hemlock
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:26:48 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hemlock tree wrote:
>> >> Jerry,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
>> >> I tried what you said.
>> >> When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
>> >> I have shared one drive one each computer.
>> >> My workgroup names are the same.
>> >>
>> >> I sat up both computers the same way.
>> >> I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
>> >> I was hoping to see the other computer.
>> >>
>> >> When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
>> >> computers and transfer data.
>> >>
>> >> Currently no go.
>> >>
>> >> What do you suggest for a next action(s).
>> >> How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
>> >>
>> >> thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Hemlock
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Hemlock tree wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
>> >>>>I also have two computers..
>> >>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
>> >>>>communicate with the internet.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
>> >>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
>> >>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>How do I do this?
>> >>>>Can it be done with what I have.
>> >>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>thanks in advance.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Hemlock
>> >>>
>> >>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is
>irrelevant,
>> >>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address
>in
>> >>>the same subnet.
>> >>>
>> >>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
>> >>>same subnet.
>> >>>
>> >>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
>> >>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them
>on
>> >>>the same one).
>> >>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing
>for
>> >>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
>> >>>select Properties).
>> >>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
>> >>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click
>the
>> >>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
>> >>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
>> >>>TCP/IP' radio button.
>> >>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
>> >>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
>> >>>running OK.
>> >>>
>> >>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
>> >>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
>> >>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
>> >>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
>> >\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?
>> >
>> >If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?
>>
>>
>

Jerry

I hope you can help me too. I am really stuck. Everything seems correct and
I think the problem might just be exactly what you mention: the NodeType,
because they are different on the 2 computers. However when I folowed your
advice on the desktop PC that had the nodetype listed as "unknown", it no
longer was able to see the other PC, and therefore that did not help and I
used restore to return to where I was.

The other possibility is that I notice that I have the following protocols
installed:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NetBEUI (that I use for the wired network till I get the wireless to work)
Internet TCP/IP

****but no Netbios - could that be the problem?

Here is the basic information. Could you suggest something I could do to get
this wireless LAN working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am trying to create a wireless 802.11b LAN between by Toshiba satellite
laptop and my desktop PC and just can't get things to work. Both are Pentium
4s running Windows XP Home with all the latest patches. I do not care about
shared internet access for now, just want to get the LAN working so I can
transfer files wirelessly between the 2 PCs. WEP is disabled on both to
minimize possible problems for now until I get the LAN functioning.

The 2 PCs are equipped as follows:
1. Laptop has a built in wireless adapter (Toshiba Wireless LAN Mini PCI
Card) and something called a MAC Bridge Miniport.

2. The desktop has a PCI adapter (not wireless) cabled to a D-Link 802.11b
wireless Router (DI 514) through one of its 4 cable ports. The router was
installed on the desktop with no problems using the CD that came with it.

(FWIW, I had previously established a working cabled LAN between the same 2
PCs using NetBEUI. I had used NetBEUI because I had given up trying to use
the standard protocols to get a working connection. But now I would like to
go wireless and I do not think NetBEUI works on wireless).
......................
ipconfig shows (first number is the desktop/ second is the laptop):
Ethernet Adapter
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.100 / 192.168.0.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 / 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers...................... .: 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1

Seems correct, BUT not yet. The wireless LAN is still not working.

LAPTOP on wireless
Signal strength excellent.
When I click on My Network places on the laptop, I can see my workgroup
(under Microsoft Windows Network) but can see only the laptop, not the
desktop. Find Computer cannot find the desktop.

DESKTOP on wireless:
When I click on my Network places on the desktop, I can see my workgroup
(under Microsoft Windows Network) and both computers BUT cannot access the
laptop.

TESTS:
ipconfig shows (first value is for desktop / second for laptop):
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . ..... : Yes / Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes / Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.100 / 192.168.0.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 / 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1

pinging from laptop:
192.168.0.100 Unsuccessful
192.168.0.102 Successful
192.168.0.1 Unsuccessful

pinging from desktop:
192.168.0.100 Successful
192.168.0.102 Unsuccessful
192.168.0.1 Successful


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"Jerry Park" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%Wlyb.28519$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hemlock tree wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Neither worked.
> > I did a command line ping to the addresses 2x both worked.
> > But the ping to the names of the computers failed to work.
> > So I can ping the numbered address e.g. 192.168.2.86 and 192.168.2.2
> > but the computer names fail.
> >
> > Does any of this depend on MS services I might have turned off or
> > disabled?
> >
> > Hemlock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:26:48 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hemlock tree wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jerry,
> >>>
> >>>First of all, thank you for your kind reply.
> >>>I tried what you said.
> >>>When I click on my network places, I don't even see my own computer.
> >>>I have shared one drive one each computer.
> >>>My workgroup names are the same.
> >>>
> >>>I sat up both computers the same way.
> >>>I don't yet have a common logon id but am working that next.
> >>>I was hoping to see the other computer.
> >>>
> >>>When I used a cross over wire ethernet to ethernet, I could see both
> >>>computers and transfer data.
> >>>
> >>>Currently no go.
> >>>
> >>>What do you suggest for a next action(s).
> >>>How can I(we) trouble shoot this?
> >>>
> >>>thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Hemlock
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:56:39 -0600, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hemlock tree wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have a Belkin wireless router, and a USB wireless adaptor,
> >>>>>I also have two computers..
> >>>>>My two computers are connected thru the Belkin router and can
> >>>>>communicate with the internet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I want them to be able to talk to each other.
> >>>>>One computer is directly connected to the Belkin router by ethernet.
> >>>>>The other is connected by USB Belkin wireless adapter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>How do I do this?
> >>>>>Can it be done with what I have.
> >>>>>Both computers run win xp pro.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>thanks in advance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hemlock
> >>>>
> >>>>The method of connection (ethernet cable, wireless, etc.) is
irrelevant,
> >>>>so long as each system is in the same workgroup and has an IP address
in
> >>>>the same subnet.
> >>>>
> >>>>Since each sees the Internet, they doubtless have IP addresses in the
> >>>>same subnet.
> >>>>
> >>>>1) Check the workgroup name. Should be the same on each computer. (You
> >>>>can connect across workgroups, but it is more convenient to have them
on
> >>>>the same one).
> >>>>2) Check the connections. Each should have 'File and Printer Sharing
for
> >>>>Microsoft Networks' bound to it. (Right click on the connection and
> >>>>select Properties).
> >>>>3) Insure that you have NetBios over TCP/IP selected. (Right click on
> >>>>the connection, choose Properties, select the TCP/IP protocol, click
the
> >>>>Properties button, click the Advanced button, select the WINS tab.
> >>>>Choose either the Default radio button or the 'Enable NetBios over
> >>>>TCP/IP' radio button.
> >>>>4) If you have the XP firewall (or any other firewall) running, you
> >>>>should probably turn it off, at least until you get everything else
> >>>>running OK.
> >>>>
> >>>>You should now see each computer in the Network Neighborhood. If you
> >>>>don't, post back. Could be a node type problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>To actually access one computer from the other, you will need to share
> >>>>files or folders. Also, on each computer, insure that there is a login
> >>>>and password that matches a login/password on the other.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Try this. From windows explorer, type the name of the other computer as
> >>\\ComputerName . Can you connect that way?
> >>
> >>If not, can you connect if you use the IP address as \\IPAddress ?
> >
> >
> >
> If you can see the computers by IP address but not by name, your node
> type may be set improperly. The node type must be set in the registry.
>
> There are four node types:
> 1: broadcast only
> 2: WINS only
> 4: broadcast then WINS
> 8: WINS then broadcast
>
> If the nodetype is set to 2 (of if no nodetype is set and the
> DHCPNodeType is set to 2) and if there is no WINS server on your
> network, the systems can't see the network.
>
> Start|run|regedit
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE|SYSTEM|CurrentControlSet|Servic es|NetBT|Parameters
>
> If there is a NodeType and it is set to 2, change it to a 4 or 8.
>
> If there is no NodeType, create one and set to 4 or 8.
>

Please turn off your firewire if it is on.
Ensure you have something shareable like a folder.


On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:22:00 GMT, "Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Jerry
>
>I hope you can help me too. I am really stuck. Everything seems correct and
>I think the problem might just be exactly what you mention: the NodeType,
>because they are different on the 2 computers. However when I folowed your
>advice on the desktop PC that had the nodetype listed as "unknown", it no
>longer was able to see the other PC, and therefore that did not help and I
>used restore to return to where I was.
>
>The other possibility is that I notice that I have the following protocols
>installed:
>Client for Microsoft Networks
>File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>QoS Packet Scheduler
>NetBEUI (that I use for the wired network till I get the wireless to work)
>Internet TCP/IP
>
>****but no Netbios - could that be the problem?
>
>Here is the basic information. Could you suggest something I could do to get
>this wireless LAN working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>I am trying to create a wireless 802.11b LAN between by Toshiba satellite
>laptop and my desktop PC and just can't get things to work. Both are Pentium
>4s running Windows XP Home with all the latest patches. I do not care about
>shared internet access for now, just want to get the LAN working so I can
>transfer files wirelessly between the 2 PCs. WEP is disabled on both to
>minimize possible problems for now until I get the LAN functioning.
>
>The 2 PCs are equipped as follows:
>1. Laptop has a built in wireless adapter (Toshiba Wireless LAN Mini PCI
>Card) and something called a MAC Bridge Miniport.
>
>2. The desktop has a PCI adapter (not wireless) cabled to a D-Link 802.11b
>wireless Router (DI 514) through one of its 4 cable ports. The router was
>installed on the desktop with no problems using the CD that came with it.
>
>(FWIW, I had previously established a working cabled LAN between the same 2
>PCs using NetBEUI. I had used NetBEUI because I had given up trying to use
>the standard protocols to get a working connection. But now I would like to
>go wireless and I do not think NetBEUI works on wireless).
> ......................
>ipconfig shows (first number is the desktop/ second is the laptop):
>Ethernet Adapter
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Yes
> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.100 / 192.168.0.102
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 / 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
> DHCP Server....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
> DNS Servers...................... .: 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.1
>
>Seems correct, BUT not yet. The wireless LAN is still not working.
>
>LAPTOP on wireless
>Signal strength excellent.
>When I click on My Network places on the laptop, I can see my workgroup
>(under Microsoft Windows Network) but can see only the laptop, not the
>desktop. Find Computer cannot find the desktop.
>
>DESKTOP on wireless:
>When I click on my Network places on the desktop, I can see my workgroup
>(under Microsoft Windows Network) and both computers BUT cannot access the
>laptop.
>
>TESTS:
>ipconfig shows (first value is for desktop / second for laptop):
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . ..... : Yes / Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes / Yes
> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.100 / 192.168.0.102
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 / 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
> DHCP Server....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
> DNS Servers....................... : 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.0.1
>
>pinging from laptop:
>192.168.0.100 Unsuccessful
>192.168.0.102 Successful
>192.168.0.1 Unsuccessful
>
>pinging from desktop:
>192.168.0.100 Successful
>192.168.0.102 Unsuccessful
>192.168.0.1 Successful