New web rules

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter content
to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.

Hmm interesting turn of events. I'm sure the EU will watch closely and if it
works will start to impose the same standards across Europe. Of course the
stated goals could be achieved in simple practical ways which would work.
They won't, because the stated goals are not the real goals.

It seems to me the real target is to eventually undo the freedom of
expression and exchange of information and ideas that the interwebby kicked
off. Get the mass population reading off the proscribed menu again as it
were.
Anyone agree?

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"Hog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
> content
> to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.
>
> Hmm interesting turn of events. I'm sure the EU will watch closely and if
> it
> works will start to impose the same standards across Europe. Of course the
> stated goals could be achieved in simple practical ways which would work.
> They won't, because the stated goals are not the real goals.
>
> It seems to me the real target is to eventually undo the freedom of
> expression and exchange of information and ideas that the interwebby
> kicked
> off. Get the mass population reading off the proscribed menu again as it
> were.
> Anyone agree?

Yes I do. I have felt for some time that we will look back on this time as a
Golden Age of freedom.

Orwell wasn't wrong, just 30 years too early.


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Graham

%Profound_observation%

Hog wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter content
> to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.
>
> Hmm interesting turn of events. I'm sure the EU will watch closely and if it
> works will start to impose the same standards across Europe. Of course the
> stated goals could be achieved in simple practical ways which would work.
> They won't, because the stated goals are not the real goals.
>
> It seems to me the real target is to eventually undo the freedom of
> expression and exchange of information and ideas that the interwebby kicked
> off. Get the mass population reading off the proscribed menu again as it
> were.
> Anyone agree?

I wouldn't trust ANY government to decide for me what's 'imapproriate' or
otherwise. What a bloody nerve !

These jerks are becoming more Stalinist by the second.

Graham

"Hog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
content
> to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.

It should be the household or the school who sets up filtering (if required)
not the bloody ISP.

Tony wrote:

> "Hog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> > The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
> > content to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate"
> material.
>
> It should be the household or the school who sets up filtering (if required)
> not the bloody ISP.

Surely you mean not the government ? I can't see any ISP wanting to do this.

Unfortunately, when you elect Socialists, they think they know better than you
and do this kind of shit.

Graham

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> Tony wrote:
>
>> "Hog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
>> > The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
>> > content to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate"
>> material.
>>
>> It should be the household or the school who sets up filtering (if
>> required)
>> not the bloody ISP.
>
> Surely you mean not the government ? I can't see any ISP wanting to do
> this.
>
> Unfortunately, when you elect Socialists, they think they know better than
> you
> and do this kind of shit.
>
> Graham
>
>

scary stuff, can't see it working though, filters can stop casual users and
kids accidentally accessing dodgy sites, but those who access on purpose
will find ways round filters an about 3 minutes, so it just goes deeper
underground. by keeping access open clampdowns like operation ore are
possible, and the true deviants can be tracked.
doubtless 'community and church' leaders would help assemble the lists,
probably the people that i'd least like in charge.

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> Tony wrote:
>
> > "Hog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> >
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> > > The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
> > > content to ensure households and schools do not receive
"inappropriate"
> > material.
> >
> > It should be the household or the school who sets up filtering (if
required)
> > not the bloody ISP.
>
> Surely you mean not the government ? I can't see any ISP wanting to do
this.
>
> Unfortunately, when you elect Socialists, they think they know better than
you
> and do this kind of shit.
>
> Graham

Well of course I mean government, but if the government tells the ISP they
have to do it, it is then the ISP, is it not?

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:50:28 +0000, Eeyore
<(E-Mail Removed)> mangled uncounted
electrons thus:

>
>
>Hog wrote:
>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
>> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter content
>> to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.
>>
>> Hmm interesting turn of events. I'm sure the EU will watch closely and if it
>> works will start to impose the same standards across Europe. Of course the
>> stated goals could be achieved in simple practical ways which would work.
>> They won't, because the stated goals are not the real goals.
>>
>> It seems to me the real target is to eventually undo the freedom of
>> expression and exchange of information and ideas that the interwebby kicked
>> off. Get the mass population reading off the proscribed menu again as it
>> were.
>> Anyone agree?
>
>I wouldn't trust ANY government to decide for me what's 'imapproriate' or
>otherwise. What a bloody nerve !
>
>These jerks are becoming more Stalinist by the second.

Or McCarthy-ite. There's no practical difference between the
extreme Right and the extreme Left although each would claim an
exactly opposite ideological POV...

Martin D. Pay
Fortunately HMG is far too disorganised and inefficient to impose
this sort of BS effectively. Besides which I'd certainly hope
that our own courts, or those of last resort in the EU, would
throw out any such measure

Eeyore wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
>> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
>> content to ensure households and schools do not receive
>> "inappropriate" material.
>
> I wouldn't trust ANY government to decide for me what's
> 'imapproriate' or otherwise. What a bloody nerve !
>
> These jerks are becoming more Stalinist by the second.


Are the comments on this thread aware that the original article is about an
***Australian*** government proposal ?




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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:08:11 UTC, "Nigel Cliffe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Hog wrote:
> >
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm
> >> The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter
> >> content to ensure households and schools do not receive
> >> "inappropriate" material.
> >
> > I wouldn't trust ANY government to decide for me what's
> > 'imapproriate' or otherwise. What a bloody nerve !
> >
> > These jerks are becoming more Stalinist by the second.
>
>
> Are the comments on this thread aware that the original article is about an
> ***Australian*** government proposal ?

I didn't read the article (should have guessed from the URL) but the
spelling of 'Labor' is a bit of a giveaway too...

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