New phone line??

If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new line
(with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
broadband speeds??

Xeonwales explained :
> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new line
> (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
> broadband speeds??

You will get any of the following:

Better speeds
Worse Speeds
No broadband
Same speeds

On 15/07/2007 11:45, Xeonwales wrote:

> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new line
> (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
> broadband speeds??

If you're expecting to get a shiny new faster(?) bit of wire by doing
that, you should realise it's very likely the existing cable coming into
your house already has four wires in two pairs, if you order a second
line, but they will just use the unused pair.

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:45:34 -0000, Xeonwales <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new line
>(with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>broadband speeds??

No you wouldn't be "likely" to get better speeds. You _might_ but
there are absolutely no guarantees.

Posting some statistics (attenuation etc) might help someone to offer
an opinion based on more than guesswork ;-)

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:05:19 +0100, Jono <(E-Mail Removed)>
mused:

>Xeonwales explained :
>> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new line
>> (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>> broadband speeds??
>
>You will get any

or none

>of the following:
>
>Better speeds
>Worse Speeds
>No broadband
>Same speeds
Some broadband
--
Regards,
Stuart.

Xeonwales wrote:
> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new
> line (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
> broadband speeds??

Think it thru logically & you will answer your own question, same
pole, same PCP, same network, same exchange.
Now what do you think?

"Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
news:mPidnZr4hbe5jQfbnZ2dnUVZ8s-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Xeonwales wrote:
>> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new
>> line (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>> broadband speeds??
>
> Think it thru logically & you will answer your own question, same pole,
> same PCP, same network, same exchange.
> Now what do you think?

And maybe the new line might get routed through another PCP if the "normal"
route is working to capacity, so you might end up with a longer
route-distance and worse speed.

George

In message <mPidnZr4hbe5jQfbnZ2dnUVZ8s-(E-Mail Removed)>
at 13:16:35 on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Kraftee <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk>
wrote
>Xeonwales wrote:
>> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new
>> line (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>> broadband speeds??
>
>Think it thru logically & you will answer your own question, same
>pole, same PCP, same network, same exchange.
>Now what do you think?
>
>
I know someone in deep mid Wales, miles from his exchange. The line to
his house wasn't good enough for broadband, but his neighbour's was
served by thicker wires. So they swapped them over, and was able to get
512mbps
--
Mike News

"Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
news:mPidnZr4hbe5jQfbnZ2dnUVZ8s-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Xeonwales wrote:
>> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new
>> line (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>> broadband speeds??
>
> Think it thru logically & you will answer your own question, same pole,
> same PCP, same network, same exchange.
> Now what do you think?

For a variety of historical reasons partly to do with ISDN, I now have two
POTS lines each with ADSL. One has the service from Demon, the other from
Zen.

There is a Vigor router on the Zen service, currently reporting:
Up speed 416000
down speed 2656000
SNR margin 3.5
Loop att 61.0

The Demon service has an Edimax router, currently reporting:
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin: 6.5 14.0
Line Attenuation: 63.5 31.0
Data Rate: 1344 448 kbps

I suspect the difference in reported speeds is due partly to the different
ISPs and partly due to the different routers. The actual download speed
reported by www.speedtest.net is never more than 1300kbits sec for Demon,
and usually about 950 kbits/sec; while the Zen service usually reports
1400kbits/sec and sometimes as much as 1900kbits/sec.

However, the technical support from Zen is superb, whereas the support from
Demon is very poor. For example, the Demon service stopped working the
other week (ADSL sync but no PPP connection) - and a similar fault affected
many other subscribers on the same exchange. After several lengthy phone
calls Demon agreed that there was a problem in the exchange, but said they
would not even report it to BT until the fault had been present for at least
12 hours!!!

--
Graham J

George Weston wrote:
> "Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:mPidnZr4hbe5jQfbnZ2dnUVZ8s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Xeonwales wrote:
>>> If i got BT to install an additional line to my home, off the new
>>> line (with new phone number), would i likely be able to get better
>>> broadband speeds??
>>
>> Think it thru logically & you will answer your own question, same
>> pole, same PCP, same network, same exchange.
>> Now what do you think?
>
> And maybe the new line might get routed through another PCP if the
> "normal" route is working to capacity, so you might end up with a
> longer route-distance and worse speed.
>
> George

Doubt if that would happen, but hey we are talking about Openreach
where anything could