New MacBook lacks a Cardbus Slot--How do you use High Speed Datafrom Verizon?

I noticed that Apple forgot to include a CardBus slot on their latest
notebook, the MacBook. I first realized this when a relative in the film
industry complained about it, because the latest HD studio cameras
CardBus cards for storage, and now there's an extra step in the
workflow, to transfer the data over Firewire, which ties up the camera.

Then someone else complained that they have to switch to the Windows
platform, because they need a notebook that can use one of the EV-DO
cellular modems, which are all CardBus. There are some USB HSDPA modems,
but he needs the coverage which Verizon provides, but Cingular doesn't,
in his area.

I know that he could use one of those routers that accept a CardBus
modem, but that's a lot to carry around.

SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Then someone else complained that they have to switch to the Windows
>platform

That may not help for long, as many new WinDoze laptops are coming
with http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/ slots, which are Yet Another
Standard designed to cause you to discard all your peripherals and buy
them again.

Sigh.

William P.N. Smith wrote:

> That may not help for long, as many new WinDoze laptops are coming
> with http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/ slots, which are Yet Another
> Standard designed to cause you to discard all your peripherals and buy
> them again.

I see that Dell is bringing out an EVDO ExpressCard module, but of
course that will only work on Windows boxes.

Not a big deal, the person in question that needed the EVDO is willing
to change to a WinDoze platform, but he would have preferred the Apple
MacBook. He's looking into running OS X on a Windows notebook, but all
of the reports are that while most of the stuff works, often some of the
I/O ports do not work (Bluetooth, CardBus, etc.).

Nothing wrong with an ExpressCard slot, as long as it's in addition to,
and not instead of, a CardBus slot. I expect that on the extremely thin
and light notebooks, that CardBus won't be around for long.

In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Then someone else complained that they have to switch to the Windows
> platform, because they need a notebook that can use one of the EV-DO
> cellular modems, which are all CardBus. There are some USB HSDPA modems,
> but he needs the coverage which Verizon provides, but Cingular doesn't,
> in his area.

I saw an advertisement from Verizon touting EVDO on the v3 Razr. That
could be tethered to a laptop with bluetooth or USB.

I have Cingular, where the V3 only has the slower GPRS, not even EDGE, so I
don't know about the Verizon pitch, but maybe it's a newer model v3.

My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.

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SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:442970de$0$96012
$(E-Mail Removed):

> I noticed that Apple forgot to include a CardBus slot on their latest
> notebook, the MacBook.

Of course! It isn't a proprietary Applecrap bus! How horrible...plugging
some STANDARD electronics made by just anyone into a MAC! But, you knew
that, right?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Then someone else complained that they have to switch to the Windows
>> platform, because they need a notebook that can use one of the EV-DO
>> cellular modems, which are all CardBus. There are some USB HSDPA modems,
>> but he needs the coverage which Verizon provides, but Cingular doesn't,
>> in his area.
>
> I saw an advertisement from Verizon touting EVDO on the v3 Razr. That
> could be tethered to a laptop with bluetooth or USB.
>
> I have Cingular, where the V3 only has the slower GPRS, not even EDGE, so I
> don't know about the Verizon pitch, but maybe it's a newer model v3.
>
> My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
> The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.

Tethering is pain in the butt. He'll get a Windows notebook instead.

In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
> > The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.

> Tethering is pain in the butt. He'll get a Windows notebook instead.

Tethering my v551 is a matter of a double-click on the dialer icon.

Other than needing to have the phone within Bluetooth range, and having
Bluetooth turned on, I don't see how that classifies as a pain.
It might even be an improvement, since the phone could be moved somewhere
for better reception than a built in GPRS card.

That strikes me as less difficult that changing to a different operating
system, but I suppose different people have different thresholds for pain.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
>>> The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.
>
>> Tethering is pain in the butt. He'll get a Windows notebook instead.
>
> Tethering my v551 is a matter of a double-click on the dialer icon.
>
> Other than needing to have the phone within Bluetooth range, and having
> Bluetooth turned on, I don't see how that classifies as a pain.
> It might even be an improvement, since the phone could be moved somewhere
> for better reception than a built in GPRS card.
>
> That strikes me as less difficult that changing to a different operating
> system, but I suppose different people have different thresholds for pain.

It's not just that. With a CardBus card, you're separating your phone
and your data connections. This guy wants to use the CardBus card in his
notebook when traveling, but in a wireless router when at home, so all
the computers in the house can share the data connection.

It's not about price, I don't even know what unlimited tethered EV-DO
access costs, if it's actually any less than using a CardBus modem. It's
about being able to separate the voice and data functions.

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In <442b194e$0$95981$(E-Mail Removed)> on Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:33:49
-0800, SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Then someone else complained that they have to switch to the Windows
>>> platform, because they need a notebook that can use one of the EV-DO
>>> cellular modems, which are all CardBus. There are some USB HSDPA modems,
>>> but he needs the coverage which Verizon provides, but Cingular doesn't,
>>> in his area.
>>
>> I saw an advertisement from Verizon touting EVDO on the v3 Razr. That
>> could be tethered to a laptop with bluetooth or USB.
>>
>> I have Cingular, where the V3 only has the slower GPRS, not even EDGE, so I
>> don't know about the Verizon pitch, but maybe it's a newer model v3.
>>
>> My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
>> The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.
>
>Tethering is pain in the butt. ...

Nonsense (yet again) -- it's actually quite easy and convenient.

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In <442b39e8$0$95969$(E-Mail Removed)> on Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:52:52
-0800, SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> In alt.internet.wireless SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>> My Motorola v551 does EDGE at about 100Kbps to a Bluetooth Windows laptop.
>>>> The Motorola v557 has better upload speeds than my v551.
>>
>>> Tethering is pain in the butt. He'll get a Windows notebook instead.
>>
>> Tethering my v551 is a matter of a double-click on the dialer icon.
>>
>> Other than needing to have the phone within Bluetooth range, and having
>> Bluetooth turned on, I don't see how that classifies as a pain.
>> It might even be an improvement, since the phone could be moved somewhere
>> for better reception than a built in GPRS card.
>>
>> That strikes me as less difficult that changing to a different operating
>> system, but I suppose different people have different thresholds for pain.
>
>It's not just that. With a CardBus card, you're separating your phone
>and your data connections. This guy wants to use the CardBus card in his
>notebook when traveling, but in a wireless router when at home, so all
>the computers in the house can share the data connection.

That's *not* what he wrote -- he was thinking of using a wireless EV-DO router
as an alternative to a more direct form of EV-DO connection.

>It's not about price, I don't even know what unlimited tethered EV-DO
>access costs,

Why am I not surprised. $60/month.

>if it's actually any less than using a CardBus modem. It's
>about being able to separate the voice and data functions.

Not to the OP.

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