New DC in workgroup environment

Hi guys, I need to install a Windows 2003 domain controler (active
directory) onto my workgroup network. The problem is that it was done once
before(I have just started here) and apparently as soon as the domain
controler came online, it took control of the WINS and therefore none of the
pcs could access the network, so I dont want to just do it and then find out
theat it crashes my network.
Is there a way to get around this?
Network running DHCP with windows 2000/2003 servers, windows 98/2000/xp
clients and Macs



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TIA
Steven

I think you have a wrong impression. AD is not related to, nor has any
effect on WINS,...the same is true for DHCP. AD is related only to DNS, and
even at that, it only effects machines that are specifically made members of
the Domain and which are also pointed to the AD DNS Server for thier DNS.
Other than that, all the other machines couldn't care less if the DC existed
or not.

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Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
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> Hi guys, I need to install a Windows 2003 domain controler (active
> directory) onto my workgroup network. The problem is that it was done
once
> before(I have just started here) and apparently as soon as the domain
> controler came online, it took control of the WINS and therefore none of
the
> pcs could access the network, so I dont want to just do it and then find
out
> theat it crashes my network.
> Is there a way to get around this?
> Network running DHCP with windows 2000/2003 servers, windows 98/2000/xp
> clients and Macs
>
>
>
> --
> TIA
> Steven
>
>

Thats what I thought, but apparently the DC takes over the WINS requests,
and seeing as the clients are still pointing at another machine for WINS
resolution, and that machine no longer handles the WINS requests, the
clients can't connect.
I guess I'll just have to give it a go and hope that the network doesn't
fall over.

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Steven Cooke


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:O%(E-Mail Removed)...
> I think you have a wrong impression. AD is not related to, nor has any
> effect on WINS,...the same is true for DHCP. AD is related only to DNS,
and
> even at that, it only effects machines that are specifically made members
of
> the Domain and which are also pointed to the AD DNS Server for thier DNS.
> Other than that, all the other machines couldn't care less if the DC
existed
> or not.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi guys, I need to install a Windows 2003 domain controler (active
> > directory) onto my workgroup network. The problem is that it was done
> once
> > before(I have just started here) and apparently as soon as the domain
> > controler came online, it took control of the WINS and therefore none of
> the
> > pcs could access the network, so I dont want to just do it and then find
> out
> > theat it crashes my network.
> > Is there a way to get around this?
> > Network running DHCP with windows 2000/2003 servers, windows 98/2000/xp
> > clients and Macs
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > TIA
> > Steven
> >
> >
>
>

"Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thats what I thought, but apparently the DC takes over the WINS requests,
> and seeing as the clients are still pointing at another machine for WINS
> resolution, and that machine no longer handles the WINS requests, the
> clients can't connect.

That is not what is happening. It just simply doesn't work that way. WINS
requests are "directed" by the client making the request based on the
clients WINS setting. It is not possible for it to go anywhere else,...it
cannot be "hyjacked".

You also need to define "can't connect" in this context.

Whatever you have happening isn't what you think it is, but from here and
can't possibly guess at what it would be.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

I'm going to connect it and see what happens, I'll let you know as soon as I
do,

Thanks

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Steven Cooke


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
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> "Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thats what I thought, but apparently the DC takes over the WINS
requests,
> > and seeing as the clients are still pointing at another machine for WINS
> > resolution, and that machine no longer handles the WINS requests, the
> > clients can't connect.
>
> That is not what is happening. It just simply doesn't work that way. WINS
> requests are "directed" by the client making the request based on the
> clients WINS setting. It is not possible for it to go anywhere else,...it
> cannot be "hyjacked".
>
> You also need to define "can't connect" in this context.
>
> Whatever you have happening isn't what you think it is, but from here and
> can't possibly guess at what it would be.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>

I removed the WINS server role, and everything seems to be OK.

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Steven Cooke


"Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm going to connect it and see what happens, I'll let you know as soon as
I
> do,
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Steven Cooke
>
>
> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Steven Cooke" <stevenc"at"fishwicks.co.za> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thats what I thought, but apparently the DC takes over the WINS
> requests,
> > > and seeing as the clients are still pointing at another machine for
WINS
> > > resolution, and that machine no longer handles the WINS requests, the
> > > clients can't connect.
> >
> > That is not what is happening. It just simply doesn't work that way.
WINS
> > requests are "directed" by the client making the request based on the
> > clients WINS setting. It is not possible for it to go anywhere
else,...it
> > cannot be "hyjacked".
> >
> > You also need to define "can't connect" in this context.
> >
> > Whatever you have happening isn't what you think it is, but from here
and
> > can't possibly guess at what it would be.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> > www.wandtv.com
> >
> >
>
>