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L.
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      06-12-2007, 04:54 PM
Not sure what has happened.
Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm getting
the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect to
it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the problem
was/is with this system.
As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
problem.
When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.

I did unplug the wireless router but no help,

suggestion please,

L.


 
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      06-12-2007, 06:40 PM
L. wrote:
> Not sure what has happened.
> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm getting
> the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect to
> it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the problem
> was/is with this system.
> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
> problem.
> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>
> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>
> suggestion please,
>
> L.
>
>


The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not successfully
connecting to your router (or at least, you're not getting an IP address
from the router's DHCP server).

Try power-cycling the router:

turn off computer
unplug the router and plug it back in
wait 60 seconds
power on the computer

If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption off
while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other filters
off; etc.).

Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If
not, it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so, the
"brick" power supply is a likely suspect.

--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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L.
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      06-12-2007, 07:10 PM
May need some help.
I did power on/off system, no help.

I'm on a system writting this that is connected to the network(wired), need
help connecting to the router to check settings. Not sure how to do that.
The person who "normally" helps us is on vacation for next 1 1/2 weeks.

FYI- There is a cable connected from our high speed cable modem/router to
this router and then to another wired system, that is working ok. Did notice
the lights on the router seem to be working ok, 'power' on, 'status'
blinking, 'Lwan', '1' & '3' are blinking. The ones not on/blinking are
'Wan', '2' & '4' (nothing plugged into slots 2&4).

Can see Network Name(SSID), signal @ 60%(normal). Channel 11. Using
Netgear Smart Config.

Hope this helps,
L.


"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> L. wrote:
>> Not sure what has happened.
>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect
>> to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the
>> problem was/is with this system.
>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>> problem.
>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>
>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>
>> suggestion please,
>>
>> L.
>>
>>

>
> The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not successfully
> connecting to your router (or at least, you're not getting an IP address
> from the router's DHCP server).
>
> Try power-cycling the router:
>
> turn off computer
> unplug the router and plug it back in
> wait 60 seconds
> power on the computer
>
> If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
> cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
> settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption off
> while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other filters off;
> etc.).
>
> Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If not,
> it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so, the
> "brick" power supply is a likely suspect.
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer



 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      06-12-2007, 08:17 PM
Hi
If you can connect to another system the other system it a none secure open
system, otherwise you will not be able to connect. If you are wisley runing
a secure system and the wirless computer can connet to a none secure system
it meands that the wirless copmuter security has to be configured to match
your Network security (or lost the security configuration).
From the weakest to the Strongest..
No Security
MAC
WEP
WPA-PSK
WPA-AES
WPA2
-------------------------------------------
Wireless Security - <http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html>
The security must be set according to lowest capable Wireless component.
I.e. even most of you Wireless are capable to do WPA2, but one device is
only capable to do WEP, the whole system must be configured to WEP.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Not sure what has happened.
> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm getting
> the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect
> to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the problem
> was/is with this system.
> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
> problem.
> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>
> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>
> suggestion please,
>
> L.
>
>



 
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Lem
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      06-12-2007, 08:19 PM
The typical way to access the router is to type the IP address of the
router into your web browser. This usually is 192.168.0.1 or
192.168.1.1. If you're not sure, it's the IP address of the "default
gateway".

Your best bet is to go to http://www.netgear.com/ and download the
manual for the particular Netgear router you have. That will show you
how to check (and set) the various router settings.

Before you do that, what are you using for a wifi adapter in the problem
computer? Are you using Windows to configure it or is this what you are
using "Netgear Smart Config" for (I'm not familiar with Netgear Smart
Config)?

That you say that you are using Channel 11 show 60% signal strength
suggests that you are NOT using Windows to configure the adapter. On
the other hand, if you have not disabled Windows Wireless Zero
Configuration (and the mfr's utility doesn't do that for you), that may
be a source of problems. See http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html

Is the box checked, as shown in the top of this screenshot?
http://screenshots.modemhelp.net/scr...ks/Index.shtml

I believe that the Netgear utility (if that's what you're using) should
automatically disable Windows WZC, but it wouldn't hurt to check.

If you're confident that you know the encryption key for your wifi
network, try deleting the profile and re-create it with the correct key.
Note that you can download a manual for the adapter as well as for the
router.




L. wrote:
> May need some help.
> I did power on/off system, no help.
>
> I'm on a system writting this that is connected to the network(wired), need
> help connecting to the router to check settings. Not sure how to do that.
> The person who "normally" helps us is on vacation for next 1 1/2 weeks.
>
> FYI- There is a cable connected from our high speed cable modem/router to
> this router and then to another wired system, that is working ok. Did notice
> the lights on the router seem to be working ok, 'power' on, 'status'
> blinking, 'Lwan', '1' & '3' are blinking. The ones not on/blinking are
> 'Wan', '2' & '4' (nothing plugged into slots 2&4).
>
> Can see Network Name(SSID), signal @ 60%(normal). Channel 11. Using
> Netgear Smart Config.
>
> Hope this helps,
> L.
>
>
> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> L. wrote:
>>> Not sure what has happened.
>>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect
>>> to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the
>>> problem was/is with this system.
>>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>>> problem.
>>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>>
>>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>>
>>> suggestion please,
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>

>> The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not successfully
>> connecting to your router (or at least, you're not getting an IP address
>> from the router's DHCP server).
>>
>> Try power-cycling the router:
>>
>> turn off computer
>> unplug the router and plug it back in
>> wait 60 seconds
>> power on the computer
>>
>> If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
>> cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
>> settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption off
>> while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other filters off;
>> etc.).
>>
>> Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If not,
>> it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so, the
>> "brick" power supply is a likely suspect.
>>
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

>
>



--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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      06-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Answer/responses below between *****.


"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The typical way to access the router is to type the IP address of the
> router into your web browser. This usually is 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1.
> If you're not sure, it's the IP address of the "default gateway".
>


******
I take it I need to use the system that is attached to the router, not this
on attached directly to the cable modem/router.
This is what I get when I type in 192.196.1.1 on this system,
http://www11.charter.net/search?qo=1...PHCqu7PTWKAR3z
******

> Your best bet is to go to http://www.netgear.com/ and download the manual
> for the particular Netgear router you have. That will show you how to
> check (and set) the various router settings.
>

********
Netgear is my card in the system not working. The router is a D-Link.
********

> Before you do that, what are you using for a wifi adapter in the problem
> computer? Are you using Windows to configure it or is this what you are
> using "Netgear Smart Config" for (I'm not familiar with Netgear Smart
> Config)?
>

************
Using NetGear Smart Config. always had.
************

> That you say that you are using Channel 11 show 60% signal strength
> suggests that you are NOT using Windows to configure the adapter. On the
> other hand, if you have not disabled Windows Wireless Zero Configuration
> (and the mfr's utility doesn't do that for you), that may be a source of
> problems. See http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>

*********
When I install the driver/utlilty program for the card, it ask to disable
WWZConfig.
*********


> Is the box checked, as shown in the top of this screenshot?
> http://screenshots.modemhelp.net/scr...ks/Index.shtml
>
> I believe that the Netgear utility (if that's what you're using) should
> automatically disable Windows WZC, but it wouldn't hurt to check.
>

********
correct, disabled.
********

> If you're confident that you know the encryption key for your wifi
> network, try deleting the profile and re-create it with the correct key.
> Note that you can download a manual for the adapter as well as for the
> router.
>
>

*******
Not sure on this one.

Will check above setting with router before continuing.
Will have to get on the one system that's attached to the router. Probably
tomorrow.
Please check back and thanks,
*******
>
>
> L. wrote:
>> May need some help.
>> I did power on/off system, no help.
>>
>> I'm on a system writting this that is connected to the network(wired),
>> need help connecting to the router to check settings. Not sure how to do
>> that. The person who "normally" helps us is on vacation for next 1 1/2
>> weeks.
>>
>> FYI- There is a cable connected from our high speed cable modem/router to
>> this router and then to another wired system, that is working ok. Did
>> notice the lights on the router seem to be working ok, 'power' on,
>> 'status' blinking, 'Lwan', '1' & '3' are blinking. The ones not
>> on/blinking are 'Wan', '2' & '4' (nothing plugged into slots 2&4).
>>
>> Can see Network Name(SSID), signal @ 60%(normal). Channel 11. Using
>> Netgear Smart Config.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> L.
>>
>>
>> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> L. wrote:
>>>> Not sure what has happened.
>>>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>>>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>>>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can
>>>> connect to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if
>>>> the problem was/is with this system.
>>>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>>>> problem.
>>>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>>>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>>>
>>>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>>>
>>>> suggestion please,
>>>>
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not successfully
>>> connecting to your router (or at least, you're not getting an IP address
>>> from the router's DHCP server).
>>>
>>> Try power-cycling the router:
>>>
>>> turn off computer
>>> unplug the router and plug it back in
>>> wait 60 seconds
>>> power on the computer
>>>
>>> If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
>>> cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
>>> settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption off
>>> while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other filters
>>> off; etc.).
>>>
>>> Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If
>>> not, it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so, the
>>> "brick" power supply is a likely suspect.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>>
>>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

>>
>>

>
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer



 
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L.
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      06-12-2007, 08:55 PM
Question--

We reset our server and cable modem/router a couple weeks back but may not
have turned OFF the wireless router.
Could that be the problem?

Reading about the d-link router commands and it talks about shutting things
down and how to start back up with the cable modem/router first and so on--.

Trying to find the simpliest things first.

To be honest about security, we have none on this router.
It's in the middle of a large building and I can only get 60% 15 feet from
it. Test have shown that our laptops in parking lot can not connect. No
that's not a good procedure and we may change that now but for now that is
not the problem.

L.




"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
> If you can connect to another system the other system it a none secure
> open system, otherwise you will not be able to connect. If you are wisley
> runing a secure system and the wirless computer can connet to a none
> secure system it meands that the wirless copmuter security has to be
> configured to match your Network security (or lost the security
> configuration).
> From the weakest to the Strongest..
> No Security
> MAC
> WEP
> WPA-PSK
> WPA-AES
> WPA2
> -------------------------------------------
> Wireless Security - <http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html>
> The security must be set according to lowest capable Wireless component.
> I.e. even most of you Wireless are capable to do WPA2, but one device is
> only capable to do WEP, the whole system must be configured to WEP.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Not sure what has happened.
>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect
>> to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the
>> problem was/is with this system.
>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>> problem.
>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>
>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>
>> suggestion please,
>>
>> L.
>>
>>

>
>



 
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Lem
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      06-12-2007, 11:21 PM

Yes, I meant for you to try to access the router's configuration utility
using a computer that's connected to it with an Ethernet cable. When I
said to look at the IP address of the "default gateway," I meant to do
so on a computer connected by Ethernet cable to the D-Link.

You can download a manual for the D-Link router from www.dlink.com.

The usual address for D-Link routers is 192.168.0.1. However, this may
well have been changed in order to accommodate the connection from your
cable modem/router. The user name is admin and the password should be
left blank (unless the defaults were changed).

The typical configuration with a cable modem/router and a second
wireless router is as follows:

The cable modem/router will have one or more Ethernet jacks. It sounds
as if yours has at least two.

Most D-Link wireless routers have 4 Ethernet "LAN" ports and an Ethernet
"WAN" or "Internet" port that is spaced apart from the other 4.

If you have a cable or DSL modem that is NOT also a router, an Ethernet
cable will be connected from the modem to the WAN port of the D-Link.
If you have a combination modem/router, an Ethernet cable will be
connected from the modem/router to one of the 4 D-Link LAN ports. The
WAN port of the D-Link is left open. In this case, the LAN-facing IP
address of the D-Link (the address you need to use to access its
configuration utility) *may* be changed from its default of 192.168.0.1
to an address that is on the same subnet as used by the router portion
of the modem/router.

If your cabling configuration is different than above, please include
that info in your next post.

L. wrote:
> Answer/responses below between *****.
>
>
> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The typical way to access the router is to type the IP address of the
>> router into your web browser. This usually is 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1.
>> If you're not sure, it's the IP address of the "default gateway".
>>

>
> ******
> I take it I need to use the system that is attached to the router, not this
> on attached directly to the cable modem/router.
> This is what I get when I type in 192.196.1.1 on this system,
> http://www11.charter.net/search?qo=1...PHCqu7PTWKAR3z
> ******
>
>> Your best bet is to go to http://www.netgear.com/ and download the manual
>> for the particular Netgear router you have. That will show you how to
>> check (and set) the various router settings.
>>

> ********
> Netgear is my card in the system not working. The router is a D-Link.
> ********
>
>> Before you do that, what are you using for a wifi adapter in the problem
>> computer? Are you using Windows to configure it or is this what you are
>> using "Netgear Smart Config" for (I'm not familiar with Netgear Smart
>> Config)?
>>

> ************
> Using NetGear Smart Config. always had.
> ************
>
>> That you say that you are using Channel 11 show 60% signal strength
>> suggests that you are NOT using Windows to configure the adapter. On the
>> other hand, if you have not disabled Windows Wireless Zero Configuration
>> (and the mfr's utility doesn't do that for you), that may be a source of
>> problems. See http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>>

> *********
> When I install the driver/utlilty program for the card, it ask to disable
> WWZConfig.
> *********
>
>
>> Is the box checked, as shown in the top of this screenshot?
>> http://screenshots.modemhelp.net/scr...ks/Index.shtml
>>
>> I believe that the Netgear utility (if that's what you're using) should
>> automatically disable Windows WZC, but it wouldn't hurt to check.
>>

> ********
> correct, disabled.
> ********
>
>> If you're confident that you know the encryption key for your wifi
>> network, try deleting the profile and re-create it with the correct key.
>> Note that you can download a manual for the adapter as well as for the
>> router.
>>
>>

> *******
> Not sure on this one.
>
> Will check above setting with router before continuing.
> Will have to get on the one system that's attached to the router. Probably
> tomorrow.
> Please check back and thanks,
> *******
>>
>> L. wrote:
>>> May need some help.
>>> I did power on/off system, no help.
>>>
>>> I'm on a system writting this that is connected to the network(wired),
>>> need help connecting to the router to check settings. Not sure how to do
>>> that. The person who "normally" helps us is on vacation for next 1 1/2
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> FYI- There is a cable connected from our high speed cable modem/router to
>>> this router and then to another wired system, that is working ok. Did
>>> notice the lights on the router seem to be working ok, 'power' on,
>>> 'status' blinking, 'Lwan', '1' & '3' are blinking. The ones not
>>> on/blinking are 'Wan', '2' & '4' (nothing plugged into slots 2&4).
>>>
>>> Can see Network Name(SSID), signal @ 60%(normal). Channel 11. Using
>>> Netgear Smart Config.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> L.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> L. wrote:
>>>>> Not sure what has happened.
>>>>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>>>>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>>>>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can
>>>>> connect to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if
>>>>> the problem was/is with this system.
>>>>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>>>>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>>>>
>>>>> suggestion please,
>>>>>
>>>>> L.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not successfully
>>>> connecting to your router (or at least, you're not getting an IP address
>>>> from the router's DHCP server).
>>>>
>>>> Try power-cycling the router:
>>>>
>>>> turn off computer
>>>> unplug the router and plug it back in
>>>> wait 60 seconds
>>>> power on the computer
>>>>
>>>> If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
>>>> cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
>>>> settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption off
>>>> while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other filters
>>>> off; etc.).
>>>>
>>>> Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If
>>>> not, it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so, the
>>>> "brick" power supply is a likely suspect.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>>>
>>>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

>
>


--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      06-13-2007, 12:36 AM
Hi
It might be that the resetting set back some configuration to the general
default and the system does not work together as it should. I can not tell
since terms like, Server, Modem. Router, etc. are general terms it depends
how the system works, what does the authentication. how IP are assigned,
etc. There is no way to know unless some one that is familiar with the
specific settings can give more information.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Question--
>
> We reset our server and cable modem/router a couple weeks back but may not
> have turned OFF the wireless router.
> Could that be the problem?
>
> Reading about the d-link router commands and it talks about shutting
> things down and how to start back up with the cable modem/router first and
> so on--.
>
> Trying to find the simpliest things first.
>
> To be honest about security, we have none on this router.
> It's in the middle of a large building and I can only get 60% 15 feet from
> it. Test have shown that our laptops in parking lot can not connect. No
> that's not a good procedure and we may change that now but for now that is
> not the problem.
>
> L.
>
>
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> If you can connect to another system the other system it a none secure
>> open system, otherwise you will not be able to connect. If you are
>> wisley runing a secure system and the wirless computer can connet to a
>> none secure system it meands that the wirless copmuter security has to be
>> configured to match your Network security (or lost the security
>> configuration).
>> From the weakest to the Strongest..
>> No Security
>> MAC
>> WEP
>> WPA-PSK
>> WPA-AES
>> WPA2
>> -------------------------------------------
>> Wireless Security - <http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html>
>> The security must be set according to lowest capable Wireless component.
>> I.e. even most of you Wireless are capable to do WPA2, but one device is
>> only capable to do WEP, the whole system must be configured to WEP.
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Not sure what has happened.
>>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can connect
>>> to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see if the
>>> problem was/is with this system.
>>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause this
>>> problem.
>>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>>
>>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>>
>>> suggestion please,
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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      06-13-2007, 01:23 AM
Thanks. At home so will check tomorrow and report back.

L.


"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, I meant for you to try to access the router's configuration utility
> using a computer that's connected to it with an Ethernet cable. When I
> said to look at the IP address of the "default gateway," I meant to do so
> on a computer connected by Ethernet cable to the D-Link.
>
> You can download a manual for the D-Link router from www.dlink.com.
>
> The usual address for D-Link routers is 192.168.0.1. However, this may
> well have been changed in order to accommodate the connection from your
> cable modem/router. The user name is admin and the password should be left
> blank (unless the defaults were changed).
>
> The typical configuration with a cable modem/router and a second wireless
> router is as follows:
>
> The cable modem/router will have one or more Ethernet jacks. It sounds as
> if yours has at least two.
>
> Most D-Link wireless routers have 4 Ethernet "LAN" ports and an Ethernet
> "WAN" or "Internet" port that is spaced apart from the other 4.
>
> If you have a cable or DSL modem that is NOT also a router, an Ethernet
> cable will be connected from the modem to the WAN port of the D-Link. If
> you have a combination modem/router, an Ethernet cable will be connected
> from the modem/router to one of the 4 D-Link LAN ports. The WAN port of
> the D-Link is left open. In this case, the LAN-facing IP address of the
> D-Link (the address you need to use to access its configuration utility)
> *may* be changed from its default of 192.168.0.1 to an address that is on
> the same subnet as used by the router portion of the modem/router.
>
> If your cabling configuration is different than above, please include that
> info in your next post.
>
> L. wrote:
>> Answer/responses below between *****.
>>
>>
>> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The typical way to access the router is to type the IP address of the
>>> router into your web browser. This usually is 192.168.0.1 or
>>> 192.168.1.1. If you're not sure, it's the IP address of the "default
>>> gateway".
>>>

>>
>> ******
>> I take it I need to use the system that is attached to the router, not
>> this on attached directly to the cable modem/router.
>> This is what I get when I type in 192.196.1.1 on this system,
>> http://www11.charter.net/search?qo=1...PHCqu7PTWKAR3z
>> ******
>>
>>> Your best bet is to go to http://www.netgear.com/ and download the
>>> manual for the particular Netgear router you have. That will show you
>>> how to check (and set) the various router settings.
>>>

>> ********
>> Netgear is my card in the system not working. The router is a D-Link.
>> ********
>>
>>> Before you do that, what are you using for a wifi adapter in the problem
>>> computer? Are you using Windows to configure it or is this what you are
>>> using "Netgear Smart Config" for (I'm not familiar with Netgear Smart
>>> Config)?
>>>

>> ************
>> Using NetGear Smart Config. always had.
>> ************
>>
>>> That you say that you are using Channel 11 show 60% signal strength
>>> suggests that you are NOT using Windows to configure the adapter. On
>>> the other hand, if you have not disabled Windows Wireless Zero
>>> Configuration (and the mfr's utility doesn't do that for you), that may
>>> be a source of problems. See http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>>>

>> *********
>> When I install the driver/utlilty program for the card, it ask to disable
>> WWZConfig.
>> *********
>>
>>
>>> Is the box checked, as shown in the top of this screenshot?
>>> http://screenshots.modemhelp.net/scr...ks/Index.shtml
>>>
>>> I believe that the Netgear utility (if that's what you're using) should
>>> automatically disable Windows WZC, but it wouldn't hurt to check.
>>>

>> ********
>> correct, disabled.
>> ********
>>
>>> If you're confident that you know the encryption key for your wifi
>>> network, try deleting the profile and re-create it with the correct key.
>>> Note that you can download a manual for the adapter as well as for the
>>> router.
>>>
>>>

>> *******
>> Not sure on this one.
>>
>> Will check above setting with router before continuing.
>> Will have to get on the one system that's attached to the router.
>> Probably tomorrow.
>> Please check back and thanks,
>> *******
>>>
>>> L. wrote:
>>>> May need some help.
>>>> I did power on/off system, no help.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on a system writting this that is connected to the network(wired),
>>>> need help connecting to the router to check settings. Not sure how to
>>>> do that. The person who "normally" helps us is on vacation for next 1
>>>> 1/2 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> FYI- There is a cable connected from our high speed cable modem/router
>>>> to this router and then to another wired system, that is working ok.
>>>> Did notice the lights on the router seem to be working ok, 'power' on,
>>>> 'status' blinking, 'Lwan', '1' & '3' are blinking. The ones not
>>>> on/blinking are 'Wan', '2' & '4' (nothing plugged into slots 2&4).
>>>>
>>>> Can see Network Name(SSID), signal @ 60%(normal). Channel 11.
>>>> Using Netgear Smart Config.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> L. wrote:
>>>>>> Not sure what has happened.
>>>>>> Been using a wireless connection to internet for 2+ years. Now I'm
>>>>>> getting the "limited or no--" msg and cannot connect.
>>>>>> There is another wireless router somewhere around here and I can
>>>>>> connect to it. It's not ours but connected to test my system to see
>>>>>> if the problem was/is with this system.
>>>>>> As far as we can tell, we haven't done anything to system to cause
>>>>>> this problem.
>>>>>> When I click repair, I get an IP of 169.254.30.151 and submast of
>>>>>> 255.255.0.0, no Default Gateway or DNS server #'s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did unplug the wireless router but no help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> suggestion please,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The IP address of 169.254.30.151 indicates that you're not
>>>>> successfully connecting to your router (or at least, you're not
>>>>> getting an IP address from the router's DHCP server).
>>>>>
>>>>> Try power-cycling the router:
>>>>>
>>>>> turn off computer
>>>>> unplug the router and plug it back in
>>>>> wait 60 seconds
>>>>> power on the computer
>>>>>
>>>>> If no joy, try connecting to the router (temporarily) with an Ethernet
>>>>> cable. Access the router's configuration utility and make sure that
>>>>> settings are as you expect them (e.g., radio on; DHCP on; encryption
>>>>> off while testing, then on with known key; MAC filter off; other
>>>>> filters off; etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you see your SSID in the "Choose a wireless network" screen? If
>>>>> not, it's possible that some portion of the router has died. If so,
>>>>> the "brick" power supply is a likely suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>>>>
>>>>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>>
>>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

>>
>>

>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer



 
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