new 70 db limit - source of rumour?

I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
with anything definite...
(will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
)
Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?
Bob
--
robert w hall

"robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
> with anything definite...
> (will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
> )
> Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?
> Bob

http://tinyurl.com/yronu

Jc.

"robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
> with anything definite...
> (will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
> )
> Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?

I was on -68dB at my old house, I'm on -65dB here.
Works a treat.

"JD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:h3VUcVA+(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
> > with anything definite...
> > (will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
> > )
> > Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?
>
> I was on -68dB at my old house, I'm on -65dB here.
> Works a treat.

I am 65db here and they wont give me adsl, although part of the reason is
also line length

"robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
> with anything definite...
> (will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
> )
> Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?
> Bob
> --
> robert w hall

RADSL will work at 70db no problem _IF_ (& only _IF_ ) the SNR is ok &
seeing as the longer the line length the worse the SNR becomes, it is highly
unlikely.....

But this is BT we are talking about & you never know what mad cap scenario
they are going to roll out next....

"Kráftéé" <kraftee@spam_off_&_die_ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:h3VUcVA+(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I keep seeing references to this, as a rumour, but haven't yet caught up
> > with anything definite...
> > (will it for instance be a 250kbps service as I've seen _rumoured_ :-)
> > )
> > Anyone (eg Sunil???) got a good link please?
> > Bob
> > --
> > robert w hall
>
> RADSL will work at 70db no problem _IF_ (& only _IF_ ) the SNR is ok &
> seeing as the longer the line length the worse the SNR becomes, it is
highly
> unlikely.....
>
> But this is BT we are talking about & you never know what mad cap scenario
> they are going to roll out next....
>

sig to noise was 3.5dB & 68dB loss, is much better now at my new house,
6.5dB & 63dB loss (sorry put 65 in earlier post, is actually 63)

In article <oRbgc.90$(E-Mail Removed)>,
kraftee@spam_off_&_die_ntlworld.com (Kráftéé) wrote:

> RADSL will work at 70db no problem _IF_ (& only _IF_ ) the SNR is ok &
> seeing as the longer the line length the worse the SNR becomes, it is
> highly
> unlikely.....

Given that ADSL will not work past 6.65 KM, I doubt that 70dB will
happen.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

"Paul Cummins" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <oRbgc.90$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> kraftee@spam_off_&_die_ntlworld.com (Kráftéé) wrote:
>
> > RADSL will work at 70db no problem _IF_ (& only _IF_ ) the SNR is ok &
> > seeing as the longer the line length the worse the SNR becomes, it is
> > highly
> > unlikely.....
>
> Given that ADSL will not work past 6.65 KM, I doubt that 70dB will
> happen.
>
> --
> Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
> Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
>

well thats tosh - I was 7km

It depends on your loss and sig/noise - which is very loosely related to the
line length. Line length is purely a guestimate.

"Paul Cummins" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <oRbgc.90$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> kraftee@spam_off_&_die_ntlworld.com (Kráftéé) wrote:
>
> > RADSL will work at 70db no problem _IF_ (& only _IF_ ) the SNR is ok &
> > seeing as the longer the line length the worse the SNR becomes, it is
> > highly
> > unlikely.....
>
> Given that ADSL will not work past 6.65 KM, I doubt that 70dB will
> happen.

They said 2 years ago that it would not work past 3.5km and they managed it.

In article <40819f55$0$25235$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) (JD) wrote:

> well thats tosh - I was 7km
>
> It depends on your loss and sig/noise - which is very loosely related
> to the
> line length. Line length is purely a guestimate.

the ADSL standard states that the maximum distance is 18,000 feet - 6.67
kilometres.

Just proves how wrong some of the BT measurements are that your line
length was recorded as 7KM.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981