Networking XP -> Two W98SE

I have a functioning network with one XP and two Windows 98SE
machines. It's rather slow, but works.

The XP machine has broadband Internet and I've ticked all the
right boxes to have it share the Internet with the other two.
It did for a day, then stopped working and nothing I can do
will make it work again.

Any ideas about what I am doing wrong?

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Jock.

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:23:00 +0000, in uk.comp.home-networking Jock
<(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:

>I have a functioning network with one XP and two Windows 98SE
>machines. It's rather slow, but works.
>
>The XP machine has broadband Internet and I've ticked all the
>right boxes to have it share the Internet with the other two.
>It did for a day, then stopped working and nothing I can do
>will make it work again.
>
>Any ideas about what I am doing wrong?

Using ICS. Get a router, that'll sort it.
Have you turned the XP machine off and then rebooted in the wrong
order? Do you know what IP addresses the two W98 machines have?
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:40:05 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Lurch) wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:23:00 +0000, in uk.comp.home-networking Jock
><(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:
>
>>I have a functioning network with one XP and two Windows 98SE
>>machines. It's rather slow, but works.
>>
>>The XP machine has broadband Internet and I've ticked all the
>>right boxes to have it share the Internet with the other two.
>>It did for a day, then stopped working and nothing I can do
>>will make it work again.
>>
>>Any ideas about what I am doing wrong?
>
>Using ICS. Get a router, that'll sort it.

I was beginning to think along these lines. My Freeserve modem is a
USB one with no ethernet port. The routers I've looked at seem to need
the modem to have an ethernet port.

>Have you turned the XP machine off and then rebooted in the wrong
>order?

In the wrong order? You mean turn the XP off and reboot the others?
I'll try that.

Do you know what IP addresses the two W98 machines have?

AA-The XP (Internet host) has 192.168.0.1
BB-Win98 has 192.168.0.2
CC-Win98 has 192.168.0.3
All masked 255.255.255.0

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Jock.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:00:33 +0000, in uk.comp.home-networking Jock
<(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:

>>>Any ideas about what I am doing wrong?
>>
>>Using ICS. Get a router, that'll sort it.
>
>I was beginning to think along these lines. My Freeserve modem is a
>USB one with no ethernet port. The routers I've looked at seem to need
>the modem to have an ethernet port.
>
That's right, you'll need an ethernet modem as well. Some routers will
have a modem built in but I personally favour the two box setup.

>>Have you turned the XP machine off and then rebooted in the wrong
>>order?
>
>In the wrong order? You mean turn the XP off and reboot the others?
>I'll try that.
>
The XP machine should be booted first then the two W98. They should
pick up the IP addresses from the XP machine, but from the reply below
it looks like they have.

>Do you know what IP addresses the two W98 machines have?
>
>AA-The XP (Internet host) has 192.168.0.1
>BB-Win98 has 192.168.0.2
>CC-Win98 has 192.168.0.3
>All masked 255.255.255.0
>
And the default gateway on the two W98 machines is set to 192.168.0.1?
And the DNS servers are what? My knowledge of ICS is limited. I'm
assuming the XP machine is having no problems. Is it just the sharing
bit that's gone wrong?
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

"Jock" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:40:05 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Lurch) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:23:00 +0000, in uk.comp.home-networking Jock
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:
> >
> >>I have a functioning network with one XP and two Windows 98SE
> >>machines. It's rather slow, but works.
> >>
> >>The XP machine has broadband Internet and I've ticked all the
> >>right boxes to have it share the Internet with the other two.
> >>It did for a day, then stopped working and nothing I can do
> >>will make it work again.
> >>
> >>Any ideas about what I am doing wrong?
> >
> >Using ICS. Get a router, that'll sort it.
>
> I was beginning to think along these lines. My Freeserve modem is a
> USB one with no ethernet port. The routers I've looked at seem to need
> the modem to have an ethernet port.
>

This is usual. Why not get a combined modem/router. They are cheap and
reliable. Most of the modems are expensive as you need the same hardware to
implement a router as a modem, its only the software that is different.

> >Have you turned the XP machine off and then rebooted in the wrong
> >order?
>
> In the wrong order? You mean turn the XP off and reboot the others?
> I'll try that.
>
> Do you know what IP addresses the two W98 machines have?
>
> AA-The XP (Internet host) has 192.168.0.1
> BB-Win98 has 192.168.0.2
> CC-Win98 has 192.168.0.3
> All masked 255.255.255.0
>
> --
>
> Jock.

"David Wade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c4ruks$2ll7ho$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
snip.......................................>
> This is usual. Why not get a combined modem/router. They are cheap and
> reliable. Most of the modems are expensive as you need the same hardware
to
> implement a router as a modem, its only the software that is different.
>
I bought a binatone combined modem/router (adsl2000) recently and was a bit
trepidatious as I associated that company with bedside radio's and cheap
phones however this, combined with a cheap hub, has proved an excellent
purchase. It has an ethernet connection and a separate USB connection.

technical details are here

http://80.176.199.241/

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:25:20 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Lurch) wrote:

>That's right, you'll need an ethernet modem as well. Some routers will
>have a modem built in but I personally favour the two box setup.

Rather think that's going to cost more than it's worth as it's
only a hobby, not a business. However, I'll have a look around.
The BB machine is used for dialup to FreeUK as I don't have
broadband with them and can't update FreeUK home pages via FTP from FSNet.

>The XP machine should be booted first then the two W98. They should
>pick up the IP addresses from the XP machine, but from the reply below
>it looks like they have.

That's the normal sequence at the start of the day.

>>Do you know what IP addresses the two W98 machines have?
>>
>>AA-The XP (Internet host) has 192.168.0.1
>>BB-Win98 has 192.168.0.2
>>CC-Win98 has 192.168.0.3
>>All masked 255.255.255.0

>And the default gateway on the two W98 machines is set to 192.168.0.1?

Yes.

>And the DNS servers are what?

Disabled.

>My knowledge of ICS is limited.

That makes two of us!

>I'm assuming the XP machine is having no problems.

No, no problems.

>Is it just the sharing bit that's gone wrong?

Exactly.

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Jock.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 00:37:13 +0100, "brushes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"David Wade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:c4ruks$2ll7ho$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>snip.......................................>
>> This is usual. Why not get a combined modem/router. They are cheap and
>> reliable. Most of the modems are expensive as you need the same hardware
>to
>> implement a router as a modem, its only the software that is different.
>>
>I bought a binatone combined modem/router (adsl2000) recently and was a bit
>trepidatious as I associated that company with bedside radio's and cheap
>phones however this, combined with a cheap hub, has proved an excellent
>purchase. It has an ethernet connection and a separate USB connection.
>
>technical details are here
>
>http://80.176.199.241/

Trepidatious? )))

I'll have a look. Thanks.

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>This is usual. Why not get a combined modem/router. They are cheap and
>reliable. Most of the modems are expensive as you need the same hardware to
>implement a router as a modem, its only the software that is different.

Thanks for the confirmation, David.

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Jock.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 00:37:13 +0100, "brushes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"David Wade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:c4ruks$2ll7ho$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>snip.......................................>
>> This is usual. Why not get a combined modem/router. They are cheap and
>> reliable. Most of the modems are expensive as you need the same hardware
>to
>> implement a router as a modem, its only the software that is different.
>>
>I bought a binatone combined modem/router (adsl2000) recently and was a bit
>trepidatious as I associated that company with bedside radio's and cheap
>phones however this, combined with a cheap hub, has proved an excellent
>purchase. It has an ethernet connection and a separate USB connection.

Later:

I went out to Argos and bought one of these: Internet and LAN now work
perfectly. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks also to all who helped.

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Jock.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:39:24 +0000, in uk.comp.home-networking Jock
<(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:

>I went out to Argos and bought one of these: Internet and LAN now work
>perfectly. Thanks for the tip.
>
I wonder why more people don't just do this in the first place! ;-)

>Thanks also to all who helped.
>
Glad to have been of assistance.
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.