Networking XP Pro and Win 98SE

I have run the XP networking wizard on both machines.
On XP, I can see the workgroup and itself within that workgroup but can't
see the 98 machine
On the 98 machine, I can see the workgroup (same name of course) and can see
the XP machine but can't see itself.

They are connected through a Netgear router.
The XP firewall is turned off and DHCP is enabled in the router.
The 98 machine is using Client for MS networks as logon and TCP/IP only with
file and print sharing enabled.

In article <zhzid.22202$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Alan
White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have run the XP networking wizard on both machines.
>On XP, I can see the workgroup and itself within that workgroup but can't
>see the 98 machine
>On the 98 machine, I can see the workgroup (same name of course) and can see
>the XP machine but can't see itself.
>
>They are connected through a Netgear router.
>The XP firewall is turned off and DHCP is enabled in the router.
>The 98 machine is using Client for MS networks as logon and TCP/IP only with
>file and print sharing enabled.

It can take several minutes after a computer joins a network before it
appears in Network Neighborhood or My Network Places. Try accessing
the 98 machine (from both machines) by typing its name in the Start |
Run box in this format:

\\computer

If that doesn't work:

1. Disable and re-enable File and Printer Sharing on 98.
2. Make sure that a firewall program on 98 isn't blocking access.
3. Disable Browse Master on 98.

If those steps don't do it:

1. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

2. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm

3. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;314053s
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Steve, thanks very much for the detailed reply. I will print it out and
take it to my daughter's house to see if I can get it going.
Much appreciated. I have had no problems before in setting up networks (one
at my son's house also has a 98 machine which networked instantly).

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <zhzid.22202$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Alan
> White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>I have run the XP networking wizard on both machines.
>>On XP, I can see the workgroup and itself within that workgroup but can't
>>see the 98 machine
>>On the 98 machine, I can see the workgroup (same name of course) and can
>>see
>>the XP machine but can't see itself.
>>
>>They are connected through a Netgear router.
>>The XP firewall is turned off and DHCP is enabled in the router.
>>The 98 machine is using Client for MS networks as logon and TCP/IP only
>>with
>>file and print sharing enabled.
>
> It can take several minutes after a computer joins a network before it
> appears in Network Neighborhood or My Network Places. Try accessing
> the 98 machine (from both machines) by typing its name in the Start |
> Run box in this format:
>
> \\computer
>
> If that doesn't work:
>
> 1. Disable and re-enable File and Printer Sharing on 98.
> 2. Make sure that a firewall program on 98 isn't blocking access.
> 3. Disable Browse Master on 98.
>
> If those steps don't do it:
>
> 1. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
> but one of them. Details here:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> 2. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
> Details here:
>
> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
>
> 3. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
> peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>
> and delete these values if they're present:
>
> NodeType
> DhcpNodeType
>
> Reboot, then try network access again.
>
> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
> "Mixed".
>
> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>
> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;314053s
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Steve, just came back from fixing the network, thanks to your advice.

I disabled and reenabled File and print sharing, unbound file and print
sharing from all bindings except the TCP/IP Netgear wireless adapter I was
using, and disabled Browse Master (prev setting - automatic) and was then
able to see a sharing option on folders. After sharing My Documents, the
network was complete and I could see and access both computers from each
other.

Don't know if all 3 steps were necessary, but did them all at once and it
now works.

Thanks again..



"Alan White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:f6Xid.28300$(E-Mail Removed) ...
> Steve, thanks very much for the detailed reply. I will print it out and
> take it to my daughter's house to see if I can get it going.
> Much appreciated. I have had no problems before in setting up networks
> (one at my son's house also has a 98 machine which networked instantly).
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <zhzid.22202$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Alan
>> White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>I have run the XP networking wizard on both machines.
>>>On XP, I can see the workgroup and itself within that workgroup but can't
>>>see the 98 machine
>>>On the 98 machine, I can see the workgroup (same name of course) and can
>>>see
>>>the XP machine but can't see itself.
>>>
>>>They are connected through a Netgear router.
>>>The XP firewall is turned off and DHCP is enabled in the router.
>>>The 98 machine is using Client for MS networks as logon and TCP/IP only
>>>with
>>>file and print sharing enabled.
>>
>> It can take several minutes after a computer joins a network before it
>> appears in Network Neighborhood or My Network Places. Try accessing
>> the 98 machine (from both machines) by typing its name in the Start |
>> Run box in this format:
>>
>> \\computer
>>
>> If that doesn't work:
>>
>> 1. Disable and re-enable File and Printer Sharing on 98.
>> 2. Make sure that a firewall program on 98 isn't blocking access.
>> 3. Disable Browse Master on 98.
>>
>> If those steps don't do it:
>>
>> 1. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
>> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
>> but one of them. Details here:
>>
>> Windows XP Network Protocols
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>>
>> 2. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
>> Details here:
>>
>> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
>>
>> 3. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
>> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
>> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
>> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
>> peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>>
>> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>>
>> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>>
>> and delete these values if they're present:
>>
>> NodeType
>> DhcpNodeType
>>
>> Reboot, then try network access again.
>>
>> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
>> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
>> "Mixed".
>>
>> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>>
>> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>>
>> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;314053s
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
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