Networking with Win Xp home and Win98se can't see anything

Hi

I have a Win XP Home edition and a Win 98se desk
top computers with ethernet NIC.
I first connected computer to hub to computer using like
ended cables.
next I went to my network places. Set up a home or small
office network.
made a disk for netsetup installed it in the other
computer. gave the same workgroup name to both computers.
then went to my network places on the win98se and saw the
entire network incon in my network places. also I saw my
work group, my win 98se and its contents but Win XP was
not visible.
then on the win XP under entire network my workgroup, I
see nothing at all. It is a blank window to the left.
why cann't I see my own computer in WIN XP? let alone the
other computer in the same work group.
When I go into windows explorer, I can veiw my network
places and its subfolders: micorsoft windows
network,entire network and my work group name, and then it
is blank with no computers listed under the workgroup
includung the win XP. Why is that?

In article <f87c01c3bded$b15348b0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Cathy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi
>
> I have a Win XP Home edition and a Win 98se desk
>top computers with ethernet NIC.
>I first connected computer to hub to computer using like
>ended cables.
>next I went to my network places. Set up a home or small
>office network.
> made a disk for netsetup installed it in the other
>computer. gave the same workgroup name to both computers.
>then went to my network places on the win98se and saw the
>entire network incon in my network places. also I saw my
>work group, my win 98se and its contents but Win XP was
>not visible.
>then on the win XP under entire network my workgroup, I
>see nothing at all. It is a blank window to the left.
>why cann't I see my own computer in WIN XP? let alone the
>other computer in the same work group.
>When I go into windows explorer, I can veiw my network
>places and its subfolders: micorsoft windows
>network,entire network and my work group name, and then it
>is blank with no computers listed under the workgroup
>includung the win XP. Why is that?

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other
firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...c_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

what if the node type is marked Unknown? How do i change this?

M@trix


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <f87c01c3bded$b15348b0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Cathy"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> > I have a Win XP Home edition and a Win 98se desk
> >top computers with ethernet NIC.
> >I first connected computer to hub to computer using like
> >ended cables.
> >next I went to my network places. Set up a home or small
> >office network.
> > made a disk for netsetup installed it in the other
> >computer. gave the same workgroup name to both computers.
> >then went to my network places on the win98se and saw the
> >entire network incon in my network places. also I saw my
> >work group, my win 98se and its contents but Win XP was
> >not visible.
> >then on the win XP under entire network my workgroup, I
> >see nothing at all. It is a blank window to the left.
> >why cann't I see my own computer in WIN XP? let alone the
> >other computer in the same work group.
> >When I go into windows explorer, I can veiw my network
> >places and its subfolders: micorsoft windows
> >network,entire network and my work group name, and then it
> >is blank with no computers listed under the workgroup
> >includung the win XP. Why is that?
>
> 1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
> local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
> connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other
> firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:
>
> Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...c_firewall.htm
>
> 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
> but one of them. Details here:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
> Details here:
>
> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
>
> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
> peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>
> and delete these values if they're present:
>
> NodeType
> DhcpNodeType
>
> Reboot, then try network access again.
>
> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
> "Mixed".
>
> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>
> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <3fd5be8f$0$185$(E-Mail Removed)>, "M@trix"
<somewhere@work> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
>> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
>> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
>> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
>> peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
>>
>> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>>
>> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>>
>> and delete these values if they're present:
>>
>> NodeType
>> DhcpNodeType
>>
>> Reboot, then try network access again.
>>
>> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
>> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
>> "Mixed".
>>
>> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>>
>> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>>
>> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
>
>what if the node type is marked Unknown? How do i change this?
>
>M@trix

You probably don't need to change it. Unknown is OK. In fact, it's
what most XP computers that I've seen show for Node Type.

If you want to change it, change it to "Broadcast" or "Mixed" as I
indicated above, referring to the Microsoft Knowledge Base articles
for details.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"Markus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:078c01c3bf38$35d80850$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I tried all of those steps and my network still does not
> work
> I'm running a WIN98SE desktop and a WINXPPro laptop on a
> linksys wireless router. the desktop is hard wired
> however the laptop is running off of the wireless.
> I changed the nodetype on my laptop to mixed as well.
>
> Markus
> >-----Original Message-----
> >what if the node type is marked Unknown? How do i change
> this?
> >
> >M@trix
> >
> >
> >"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in
> bericht
> >news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
> >> In article <f87c01c3bded$b15348b0
> $(E-Mail Removed)>, "Cathy"
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >Hi
> >> >
> >> > I have a Win XP Home edition and a Win 98se desk
> >> >top computers with ethernet NIC.
> >> >I first connected computer to hub to computer using
> like
> >> >ended cables.
> >> >next I went to my network places. Set up a home or
> small
> >> >office network.
> >> > made a disk for netsetup installed it in the other
> >> >computer. gave the same workgroup name to both
> computers.
> >> >then went to my network places on the win98se and saw
> the
> >> >entire network incon in my network places. also I saw
> my
> >> >work group, my win 98se and its contents but Win XP
> was
> >> >not visible.
> >> >then on the win XP under entire network my workgroup,
> I
> >> >see nothing at all. It is a blank window to the left.
> >> >why cann't I see my own computer in WIN XP? let alone
> the
> >> >other computer in the same work group.
> >> >When I go into windows explorer, I can veiw my network
> >> >places and its subfolders: micorsoft windows
> >> >network,entire network and my work group name, and
> then it
> >> >is blank with no computers listed under the workgroup
> >> >includung the win XP. Why is that?
> >>
> >> 1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet
> Connection Firewall on
> >> local area network connections -- it's for use only on
> a direct modem
> >> connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install
> all other
> >> firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:
> >>
> >> Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
> >>
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...xp/ic_firewall
> .htm
> >>
> >> 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer
> Sharing. If the network
> >> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer
> Sharing from all
> >> but one of them. Details here:
> >>
> >> Windows XP Network Protocols
> >>
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...xp/network_pro
> tocols.htm
> >>
> >> 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on
> all computers.
> >> Details here:
> >>
> >> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> >>
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...troubleshoot/n
> etbt.htm
> >>
> >> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node
> Type" at the
> >> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
> (which should
> >> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
> means that the
> >> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't
> available on a
> >> peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
> >>
> >> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this
> key:
> >>
> >>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
> >>
> >> and delete these values if they're present:
> >>
> >> NodeType
> >> DhcpNodeType
> >>
> >> Reboot, then try network access again.
> >>
> >> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again,
> create a DWORD
> >> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1
> for "Broadcast" or 4 for
> >> "Mixed".
> >>
> >> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base
> articles:
> >>
> >> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;160177
> >>
> >> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;314053
> >> --
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >>
> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the
> news group
> >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
> questions
> >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >>
> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows
> Networking
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >>
> >> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> >> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
> >
> >
> >.
> >