Networking using a NetGear DG834G Modem/Router

Hi

My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my advanced
order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I expect that all
systems will be go therefore from about the end of Feb.

In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot about
configuring it.

I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and nics etc
and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime without an ADSL
telephone connection in order that I can get my network of about 4 PC's
working? ie; do the network functions operate independently of the modem?
and will it mess up the connection to broadband if I do?

I have bought the NetGear DG834G - two PC's will be hardwired and two
wirelessly

TIA

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"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my
advanced
> order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I expect that all
> systems will be go therefore from about the end of Feb.

Quite possibly a lot sooner than that

> In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot about
> configuring it.
>
> I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and nics etc
> and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime without an ADSL
> telephone connection in order that I can get my network of about 4 PC's
> working? ie; do the network functions operate independently of the modem?

Yes.

> and will it mess up the connection to broadband if I do?

No.

Regards
Sunil

Thanks M8

Happy New Year!

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"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bt5834$ltq$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my
> advanced
> > order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I expect that all
> > systems will be go therefore from about the end of Feb.
>
> Quite possibly a lot sooner than that
>
> > In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot about
> > configuring it.
> >
> > I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and nics
etc
> > and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime without an ADSL
> > telephone connection in order that I can get my network of about 4 PC's
> > working? ie; do the network functions operate independently of the
modem?
>
> Yes.
>
> > and will it mess up the connection to broadband if I do?
>
> No.
>
> Regards
> Sunil
>
>

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 02:06:27 -0000, "Paul"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi
>
>My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my advanced
>order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I expect that all
>systems will be go therefore from about the end of Feb.
>
>In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot about
>configuring it.
>
>I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and nics etc
>and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime without an ADSL
>telephone connection in order that I can get my network of about 4 PC's
>working? ie; do the network functions operate independently of the modem?
>and will it mess up the connection to broadband if I do?
>
>I have bought the NetGear DG834G - two PC's will be hardwired and two
>wirelessly
>
>TIA


I got the same combination of Pipex 1Mb and DG834G in November and I'm
well pleased and satisfied. Don't upgrade the firmware to 1.03 just
yet as you may crash the router.......


Filthy Rich
Music House

Filthy Rich wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 02:06:27 -0000, "Paul"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my
>> advanced order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I
>> expect that all systems will be go therefore from about the end of
>> Feb.
>>
>> In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot
>> about configuring it.
>>
>> I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and
>> nics etc and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime
>> without an ADSL telephone connection in order that I can get my
>> network of about 4 PC's working? ie; do the network functions
>> operate independently of the modem? and will it mess up the
>> connection to broadband if I do?
>>
>> I have bought the NetGear DG834G - two PC's will be hardwired and two
>> wirelessly
>>
>> TIA
>
>
> I got the same combination of Pipex 1Mb and DG834G in November and I'm
> well pleased and satisfied. Don't upgrade the firmware to 1.03 just
> yet as you may crash the router.......

FWIW I took delivery of a DG834G on 30th December and flashed it to 1.0.3
over a wired connection within an hour or two of setting it up. No problems
for me whatsoever. They do advise against doing the upgrade wirelessly so
heed that advice.

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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:14:29 -0000, "Tiny Tim" <_(E-Mail Removed)>
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>FWIW I took delivery of a DG834G on 30th December and flashed it to 1.0.3
>over a wired connection within an hour or two of setting it up. No problems
>for me whatsoever. They do advise against doing the upgrade wirelessly so
>heed that advice.


Apparently, some people on this ng have had their routers lock out
even when doing a wired upgrade. Broadbandbuyer have obviously had
some routers returned as they advise not upgrading in any fashion
until further notice.

Perhaps you were lucky but I don't want to risk being without my
router for a couple of weeks.....


Filthy Rich
Music House

Filthy Rich wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:14:29 -0000, "Tiny Tim" <_(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>> FWIW I took delivery of a DG834G on 30th December and flashed it to
>> 1.0.3 over a wired connection within an hour or two of setting it
>> up. No problems for me whatsoever. They do advise against doing the
>> upgrade wirelessly so heed that advice.
>
>
> Apparently, some people on this ng have had their routers lock out
> even when doing a wired upgrade. Broadbandbuyer have obviously had
> some routers returned as they advise not upgrading in any fashion
> until further notice.
>
> Perhaps you were lucky but I don't want to risk being without my
> router for a couple of weeks.....
>
Fair enough. I didn't intend that people should take unnecessary risks. I
just figure Netgear must have released the upgrade for a reason (plenty
listed on theor website) and if there were serious problems then Netgear
would have pulled or amended the release quickly enough.

This is my first experience of implementing a wireless network and even
though I saw the warnings on the Broadbandbuyer site (I bought mine from
eBuyer) I thought "What the hell?" the upgrade is there so I might as well
take advantage of it. We all know the reputation Netgear has for releasing
products with an immediate need for updates and I didn't want to pratt about
with potential problems that the upgrade was designed to fix.

Perhaps I'm luckier than most that it all went well. Or perhaps there are a
few that are just unluckier than most. Either way, I wish everone else good
luck with their DG834g :-)

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Thanks Filthy Rich

Over the week-end I looked into this piece of kit which I'd already ordered
and saw the reference to firmware update 1.03

I had proposed not to upgrade - now I definately will not until nearer the
time we go live and then only if it's necessary.

In the meantime the Router arrived at 12pm today - unpacked it - unplugged
and removed my Netgear 5 port hub (EN2005) which has now served it's
purpose - plugged in the cat5 connections - logged on to the Router - saw
that the router was configured with the same IP address as my main PC -
reconfigured my main PC - rebooted - switched on wife's PC (both hard wired
to Router) - and hey presto by 12-15pm I had a 100 mbps Network -
brilliantly quick.

Now that's what I call simple - Rock on................

Next job after tea is to setup my laptop to the network wirelessly, which
I'm sure will be even more simple. Then when I receive my wireless PCI
ethernet card I will connect up my daughters.

Just one question - I've noticed that even if I'm not transfering files
across the network the front ethernet port lights flash every 5 seconds or
so - is this correct? They are green, but I assumed that they should only
flash when files or other data is being transmitted/received. Or is this
the sensing of the wireless access point? I have temporarily turned
wireless access off in the router's configuration but the flashing continues
..

Could someone explain this phenomenon please

Cheers


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"Filthy Rich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 02:06:27 -0000, "Paul"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >My exchange is going ADSL wef 11.02.2004 and I've already placed my
advanced
> >order through Pipex - Solo2Go Extreme 1mbs service. I expect that all
> >systems will be go therefore from about the end of Feb.
> >
> >In the mean time I've ordered my equipment and I've read up a lot about
> >configuring it.
> >
> >I have already ordered a combined wireless ADSL Modem/Router and nics etc
> >and my question is - Can I set it up in the meantime without an ADSL
> >telephone connection in order that I can get my network of about 4 PC's
> >working? ie; do the network functions operate independently of the
modem?
> >and will it mess up the connection to broadband if I do?
> >
> >I have bought the NetGear DG834G - two PC's will be hardwired and two
> >wirelessly
> >
> >TIA
>
>
> I got the same combination of Pipex 1Mb and DG834G in November and I'm
> well pleased and satisfied. Don't upgrade the firmware to 1.03 just
> yet as you may crash the router.......
>
>
> Filthy Rich
> Music House

Paul wrote:
[...]
> Just one question - I've noticed that even if I'm not transfering files
> across the network the front ethernet port lights flash every 5 seconds or
> so - is this correct? They are green, but I assumed that they should only
> flash when files or other data is being transmitted/received. Or is this
> the sensing of the wireless access point? I have temporarily turned
> wireless access off in the router's configuration but the flashing
> continues .
>
> Could someone explain this phenomenon please

The router has 5 ports which act as a bridge. Since you can
connect another switches over multiple ports you can create
a loop. What's happening is the switch is sending out BPDU's
looking for these loops. Google for "spanning tree", 802.1d
and/or possibly "bridge protocol data unit". You cannot turn
these off.


B

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tiny tim:
>We all know the reputation Netgear has for releasing
>products with an immediate need for updates and I didn't want to pratt
about
>with potential problems that the upgrade was designed to fix.

They also have reputation for releasing firmware fixes which introduce more
problems then they fix, and that's IF they work at all. Not to mention
selling PPPoE only kit in UK, and selling faulty new hardware !
You pays your money....
Regards,
Martin