Networking Question

Hello group.

The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
this way.

I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
wireless for that

Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:

Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet

Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and where?

D Allison wrote:
> Hello group.
>
> The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
> router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
> this way.
>
> I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
> wireless for that
>
> Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
> and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
> be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:
>
> Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet
>
> Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and where?

You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!

Alternatively, you can get a "wireless bridge" which acts as a wireless
client on one side and has an Ethernet output on the other. I've used
the USR 4530 this way. Many Wireless Access Points can be configured to
act as clients (e.g. Netgear WG602v3) in just the same way.

PH, London

Philip Herlihy wrote:
> D Allison wrote:
>> Hello group.
>>
>> The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
>> router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
>> this way.
>>
>> I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
>> wireless for that
>>
>> Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
>> and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
>> be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:
>>
>> Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet
>>
>> Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and
>> where?
>
> You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
> Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!
>
> Alternatively, you can get a "wireless bridge" which acts as a wireless
> client on one side and has an Ethernet output on the other. I've used
> the USR 4530 this way. Many Wireless Access Points can be configured to
> act as clients (e.g. Netgear WG602v3) in just the same way.
>
> PH, London

Typo - that should be USR 5430.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:39:38 +0000, D Allison <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote the following to uk.comp.misc:

> Hello group.
>
> The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
> router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
> this way.
>
> I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
> wireless for that
>
> Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
> and connect it to the Internet that way?

Possible, but not the best way as you'll need to keep the PC on all the time
for it to work. A better option is a wireless ethernet bridge. There are
wireless game adaptors specifically designed for games console such as this
one for the Xbox 360: http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=421Y
but any wireless bridge with wireless and an ethernet interface will do.
This diagram should give you an idea of how to set things up. Copy and paste
into Notepad if it looks like a mess.

--- = ethernet cable
~~~ = wireless link




Xbox --- Wireless ethernet bridge

~
~
~
Router ~~~~ PC1
~
~
~
PC2




mh.
--
http://www.nukesoft.co.uk
http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk

From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid.

Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
> You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
> Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!
>
> Alternatively, you can get a "wireless bridge" which acts as a wireless
> client on one side and has an Ethernet output on the other. I've used
> the USR 4530 this way. Many Wireless Access Points can be configured to
> act as clients (e.g. Netgear WG602v3) in just the same way.

Ok - To save £50-£60 I'd like to try the ICS method first!!

But..

I've tried this before, and remember the wizard doing strange things.
The current setup of our network is 10.0.0.1 for the router, then 0.0.2
and 0.0.3 for the two wireless PC's.

Could I set up ICS manually and avoid the wizard?

What IP entries would be needed for the ethernet adapter in the 'host'
PC, and what values for the ethernet in the Xbox?

(I presume I can just leave the wireless settings as they are?)

D Allison wrote in message
(E-Mail Removed):

> Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>
>> You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
>> Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!
>>
>> Alternatively, you can get a "wireless bridge" which acts as a
>> wireless client on one side and has an Ethernet output on the other.
>> I've used the USR 4530 this way. Many Wireless Access Points can be
>> configured to act as clients (e.g. Netgear WG602v3) in just the same
>> way.
>
> Ok - To save £50-£60 I'd like to try the ICS method first!!
>
> But..
>
> I've tried this before, and remember the wizard doing strange things.
> The current setup of our network is 10.0.0.1 for the router, then
> 0.0.2 and 0.0.3 for the two wireless PC's.
>
> Could I set up ICS manually and avoid the wizard?
>
> What IP entries would be needed for the ethernet adapter in the 'host'
> PC, and what values for the ethernet in the Xbox?
>
> (I presume I can just leave the wireless settings as they are?)

No, I don't think there's a way of setting up ICS manually. In my experience
the "router PC" is always given an address of 192.168.0.1 and the PCs on the
LAN are always given addresses in the 192.168.0.x subnet.

If you were going to use ICS, I think you've have to change everything else
to allocate addresses in that subnet, rather than in the 10.0.0.x subnet.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, D Allison
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Hello group.
>
> The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
> router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
> this way.
>
> I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
> wireless for that
>
> Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
> and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
> be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:
>
> Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet
>
> Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and where?
>
Just bridge the wired and wireless connections on your PC (assuming
you're running XP or later). To do this select the two connectoids in
the Network Connections window, right-click and select Bridge
Connections. Then enable the bridge, start the XBox and it should
acquire its network settings from the router by DHCP (assuming you're
using DHCP on the router).
You might have to use a crossover cable rather than straight-through
Cat5 - I don't know if the XBox handles automatic media detection.

In article <eogt2c$c25$1$(E-Mail Removed)>, Philip Herlihy
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> D Allison wrote:
> > Hello group.
> >
> > The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
> > router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
> > this way.
> >
> > I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
> > wireless for that
> >
> > Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
> > and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
> > be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:
> >
> > Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet
> >
> > Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and where?
>
> You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
> Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!
>
Why would he want to use NAT software on a LAN?

Rob Morley wrote:
> In article <eogt2c$c25$1$(E-Mail Removed)>, Philip Herlihy
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> D Allison wrote:
>>> Hello group.
>>>
>>> The PC in my bedroom is connected wirelessly to the wireless
>>> router/modem in my sisters bedroom. Both our Internet connections run
>>> this way.
>>>
>>> I now have an Xbox which I want to connect to the router, but there's no
>>> wireless for that
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to connect the Xbox to the ethernet port on my PC,
>>> and connect it to the Internet that way? I realise the PC would need to
>>> be switched on for things to work that way. So things went:
>>>
>>> Xbox -> CAT5 -> PC -> Wireless -> Wireless Router -> Internet
>>>
>>> Where would I start? What settings would I have to be putting in, and where?
>> You've figured out most of it yourself. Lookup "Internet Connection
>> Sharing" in Help and you're sorted!
>>
> Why would he want to use NAT software on a LAN?


If your suggestion of bridging the two adapters works as it sounds like
it might, then he wouldn't!

I'd always assumed that "Bridging" was something much more complicated,
and had never gone into it. Just shows you can never be too old to
learn something simple...

PH

In article <eoie2l$luq$1$(E-Mail Removed)>, Philip Herlihy
(E-Mail Removed) says...
<snip>
> I'd always assumed that "Bridging" was something much more complicated,
> and had never gone into it. Just shows you can never be too old to
> learn something simple...
>
Maybe it's the simplicity that confuses - for some reason we don't
expect stuff like that to just work. :-)
I've heard it can be buggy, but that's to be expected with Microsoft
networking. :-\